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Some ideas off the top of my head.

Pointed Creates: This would be for members who have already met their pointed create limit. Could work similar to how it does for new members, new created are pointed unless the limit is reached or members are allowed X number of creates with at least like 500 pts and up to 1000.

Custom Rank Specials: Members create their own custom rank specials and decide on genes and paper levels.

Rank Special Paper Change: Members are able to create a limited number of RS that are a different paper lvl than normal. Such as an RS that is Red or B could be dropped to Yellow or C or one that is normally Yellow or C gets bumped up.

Change stable id number: I know that is other online games having an early account number is a popular thing.

I like the idea of getting straws/eggs from long dead horses as well as the custom RS. I haven't done much with cloning, but would it be possible to clone a long dead horse that had been owned by another player and be able to boost paper level? Or maybe set something up where we can pay to spin a wheel and get a random closed gene on a new create?

I wouldn’t mind a Brand New Day clone.

A barn/pasture sale would be awesome.

Boost token bundles.

The idea of custom rank specials sounds awesome, too.

Would a RS creator subscription take too much coding? Example - a box like the basic create box, but with a drop-down that lets you pick any rank specials you like, and it comes with say, 50-100 creates a month.

One idea to consider for bootstrap breeders would be to turn a foundation horse into a breeding-cap. We can already get there in 3-4 generations.

Or maybe a create that could be bought at the breeding cap? That might be easier than reassigning a horses abilities. I’m not sure, I don’t know how complex the coding is. But a gmtable at breeding cap would be interesting.

Cloning previously cloned horses would be an interesting one. Especially if you could clone a double-boost above the cap.

Or an ability to have a pasture that did a negative breeding bonus, for backwards breeding. I’m not sure if pasture coding is separate enough to isolate a couple off.

The show horse is a wonderful idea, great for boosting showing bonus. I currently own the highest on the game at age 37 with 9700 points, for anybody curious. Daily payout is over 1k a day.

I’m trying to honk up one-off things. ^_^

I agree with making a foundation horse at breeding cap for bootstrapping! That would be amazing~

I'll think of more after work and come back to the post.

I want to bop in to say that I really appreciate the concept of this - ruminating on things I would be willing/able to pitch some cash for!

I know I would be psyched about straws from one of my long-passed foundie studs now that I know how to use his babies better.

Custom tack? Likely too much work.

The ability to convert any pasture or barn into a larger size might be a good idea.

You can't make a clone as an embryo but I could make embryos from deceased sires and dams.

My own custom rank special and 100 creates has me drooling on 2 accounts, but an upgrade my pastures option would be amazing.

Rare Gene Mystery Bag: Members could purchase a "Mystery Bag" of rare genes that could then be applied to foundation horses. The genes would be random, but maybe members could choose like fantasy, non fantasy, or a mix of both categories.

Rank Specials Mystery Pack: Members get access to a random group of RS's to create. They could chose if they want only Perfect, Exceptional, or a mix of the two.

Kinda piggy backing off the breeding cap creates. Ability to clone a lined horse and have it be a foundation instead of lined.

I wouldn't mind the era shift for the foundation breeding cap boosts! I would just love being able to GMT a foundie stallion to be my new dream bootstrap stud (rather than purchasing a star stud who may have awesome genes but isn't one I created, so wouldn't be an exact fit of my favorites).

I like the idea I saw above about a grab bag of mystery genes to toss onto new foundation creates. Or the custom purchasable creates. Those were neat!

And of course the idea to clone a dead foundation would be ~amazing~

I doubt I'll be able to afford any of these :)) , but I think they are all really cool ideas!

If I could have Ammit-powers, the thing I'd want most would be to see the actual numbers for breeding ability (I'm assuming you have a way to do that? I think you've referenced solid numbers when talking about breeding ability before... if not, please disregard)! Being able to look at my stock and see "oh, this one is actually .4 better than that one" would have me absolutely drooling... so if that's info that, like, exists in the background & we could pay to make it visible (even for a limited time, like a month), that seems like it would be interesting.

Ooo I like the barn conversion idea

Yes. What I add to one server would be on all servers. If you then want to buy the creates (the t2 version) on other accounts servers you can.

silverborn - it means if you want me to do this for you you will need to own 7 5% boost tokens. You will need 9 total if you want to double-boost your horse past breeding cap.



I am starting to think roughly 10 USD per tier for my time with the understanding that I may adjust the price of individual items up or down based on what you actually get. The general price range I am thinking is between 10 and 50 USD for the things I have listed above.

Designing a herd helper would be the most expensive and might be more than 50. Or maybe it would be 50 but then you would have to pay additionally to get the giant group of creates from it.

Correct. :)

Don't you buy all your boost tokens with GMTs?

I was not expecting someone to drop 240 on a foundation. ;)

I don’t know about other players, but I’ve never had boost tokens hoarded up. I’m usually scrimping, saving, and fundraising one token at a time.

I think the reason no one is throwing numbers out is because most of us don’t know the exact amount of time or effort that goes into this stuff, and no one wants to risk throwing out an insulting offer.

Personally my income varies week to week, and it’s the slow season. It’s a roll of the dice any given week if I’m going to have a play budget. What I’m willing to pay and what I can afford to pay are not always in align… so I hesitate to make offers that I might not even be able to back up. For example, I think the BC art is beautiful and worth the price, but I have not had the extra money to purchase my favorites yet, and my income is too unstable and current surprise expenditures have been such that I hesitate to commit to a subscription… In the case of this proposed sale, I’m going to make every effort to set back $50, but since I can’t fully commit, I’m hesitant to say what I would pay for any of these things.

I agree, I don't know the first place to start offering numbers, especially because the numbers in the shop are also a little hard to get a bead on - i.e. when you compare hb/$ prices of a GMT (125k/$5 = 25k/$1) vs a 5% boost token (2.5 mil/$40 = 62.5k/$1) vs BC tokens (12.5 mil/$25 = 500k/$1) you can see the IV cost doesn't at all correlate with the real money cost.

I'm sure there's pricing reasons which make sense (like incentivizing BCs to be purchased with real money), so it's not a complaint, but it does mean I have no clue how much something like this should be worth! #-o


However, if I had to really spitball a range of numbers in terms of what I think is reasonable or at least sounds sorta like prices I'd expect to see, not necessarily what I would be able to afford, I think it might go something like this, based off what you've already said for time spent:



$10~ ish T1 -Change the name or breed characteristic of a horse you used to own but is now deceased.

$10-20 + tokens, or $100-150(?) without tokens (bulk discount on tokens, basically) T1 -Make any unbred foundation horse breeding cap quality (with a 7-era penalty). You may then double-boost that horse on your own if you so choose. You must already own the boost tokens to do this.

$5~ additional (since money is already being spent here) T2 -Convert any pasture into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$.
$5~ (ditto) T2 -Convert any barn into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$.

$20~ T2 -Pick any herd helper rank 5 or below, get 250 creates, and lasts 5 days
$20-40 T2 -Pick any normally available, RS herd helper, get 100 creates, and lasts 5 days
$30-50+ T2 -Pick any, Special event only RS, get 50 creates, lasts 5 days

$20-30 T2 -Convert any unbred rank special you have into an exceptional (or normal) version of that rank special. Discount for bulk edits of horses in the same barn needing the same edit.

$30 T2 -Have 10,000 show points assigned to 1 horse of your choice.
$25 T2 -Have 2,500 show points assigned to 3 horses of your choice.
$20 T2 -Have 1,000 show points assigned to 5 horses of your choice.

$30-50 T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 barn: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding horse (or horses in the case of a tie) in that barn by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per barn.

$30-50 T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 horse: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding offspring of a horse by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per sire/dam.

$10-15 T2 - 100 straws, or 25 eggs from any deceased horse with the last owner’s permission*
$5 for 25 eggs, $75-100 for 500 eggs (some sort of mild bulk discount) T2 - 25 eggs from any mare you own, up to 500 eggs total


$15 with IV clone cost, or $100(?) without IV clone cost T2 -Clone any deceased horse with breeder permission*, or any foundation horse you own regardless of breeder, or any lined horse you own with breeder permission*. **

$20-30 with IV clone cost, $100(?) without IV clone cost T3 -Clone any lined horse and have it be created as a perfect ability foundation horse. **

$50-100+ T4 - Design your dream Herd Helper, and receive it for 50,100,or 250 creates, lasting 5 days depending on how many GMTs it is valued at. Hard limit of 20 GMT worth of rare genes per herd helper. (Exceptional status counts as 5 GMTs)

$40-80+ T4 -Create a background tack pack: YOU create up to 10, 500 by 500 px images. They must all be approved before I will accept payment. We will add the game logo and add it to the game as an option for any player to purchase, and you will get it automatically unlocked.

(the two T4 things are "legacy" items in a sense, since they'll be added to the game, so it makes a lot more sense to charge more for those than the strict time spent due to the exclusivity feel)


Obviously this is very approximate and I feel like I'm pulling these out very loosely, I'm just trying to give some general numbers for everyone to start working with - aka please make corrections, y'all. :x


As for my own sake, I really can't afford a ton, but I also want to support the game and I don't have a ton of IVs saved back either. I do know that being able to pay for the clone/boost without having to scrape together the IVs is definitely something I'd be looking at if I could afford it. To add to that, having a way to pay with real money for just a normal cloning would also be great!

Im very unsure how to recommend or spitball prices, due to the prices not being extremely consistent around the board in the game?

It costs a lot more to buy HBS with real money to buy IVs for GMTs(or barns rly), than to buy GMts itself for example, but Lallyhop gave a good example of what i mean as well because the numbers of worth aren't consistently adding up in that way?

So to make money the fastest to help you towards your cause, its probably best to try and price things in a way that keeps the worth of the items in check, but are priced well enough that people within different ranges of income can actually afford? (Im rly hoping i typed this in an understandable way, im lacking a bit of sleep)

Just some possible prices for stuff.

$5-$8:
T1 -Change the name or breed characteristic of a horse you used to own but is now deceased.

$10 - $15:
T1 -Make any unbred foundation horse breeding cap quality (with a 7-era penalty). You may then double-boost that horse on your own if you so choose. You must already own the boost tokens to do this.

$5-$8 plus the difference:
T2 -Convert any pasture into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$.
T2 -Convert any barn into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$.

$5:
T2 -Pick any herd helper rank 5 or below, get 250 creates, and lasts 5 days

$10-$15:
T2 -Pick any normally available, RS herd helper, get 100 creates, and lasts 5 days

$15-$20:
T2 -Pick any, Special event only RS, get 50 creates, lasts 5 days

$8-10
T2 -Convert any unbred rank special you have into an exceptional (or normal) version of that rank special. Discount for bulk edits of horses in the same barn needing the same edit.

$20-25:
T2 -Have 10,000 show points assigned to 1 horse of your choice.

$15-$20:
T2 -Have 2,500 show points assigned to 3 horses of your choice.

$10-15:
T2 -Have 1,000 show points assigned to 5 horses of your choice.

$20-$30:
T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 barn: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding horse (or horses in the case of a tie) in that barn by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per barn.

$20-$30:
T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 horse: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding offspring of a horse by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per sire/dam.

$10-$15:
T2 - 100 straws, or 25 eggs from any deceased horse with the last owner’s permission*

$5+:
T2 - 25 eggs from any mare you own, up to 500 eggs total

$10+:
T2 -Clone any deceased horse with breeder permission*, or any foundation horse you own regardless of breeder, or any lined horse you own with breeder permission*. **

$30:
T3 -Clone any lined horse and have it be created as a perfect ability foundation horse. **

$50+:
T4 - Design your dream Herd Helper, and receive it for 50,100,or 250 creates, lasting 5 days depending on how many GMTs it is valued at. Hard limit of 20 GMT worth of rare genes per herd helper. (Exceptional status counts as 5 GMTs)

$40+:
T4 -Create a background tack pack: YOU create up to 10, 500 by 500 px images. They must all be approved before I will accept payment. We will add the game logo and add it to the game as an option for any player to purchase, and you will get it automatically unlocked.

I also am at my slow season but I would seriously consider raiding my savings account for a couple of these.

$15 T1 -Change the name or breed characteristic of a horse you used to own but is now deceased.

$25 T1 -Make any unbred foundation horse breeding cap quality (with a 7-era penalty). You may then double-boost that horse on your own if you so choose. You must already own the boost tokens to do this.

$5~ additional (since money is already being spent here) T2 -Convert any barn/pasture into a larger version, just pay the price difference, rounded to the nearest 5$.

$25 T2 -Pick any herd helper rank 5 or below, get 250 creates, and lasts 5 days
$30 T2 -Pick any normally available, RS herd helper, get 100 creates, and lasts 5 days
$40 T2 -Pick any, Special event only RS, get 50 creates, lasts 5 days

$30 T2 -Convert any unbred rank special you have into an exceptional (or normal) version of that rank special. Discount for bulk edits of horses in the same barn needing the same edit.

$35 T2 -Have 10,000 show points assigned to 1 horse of your choice.
$30 T2 -Have 2,500 show points assigned to 3 horses of your choice.
$25 T2 -Have 1,000 show points assigned to 5 horses of your choice.

$50 T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 barn: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding horse (or horses in the case of a tie) in that barn by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per barn.

$35 T2 -Breeding ability consult for 1 horse: I tell you with 100% accuracy, which is your best and worst breeding offspring of a horse by looking at the hidden numbers. With extra attention paid to who is intact or not. The cost is per sire/dam.

$15 T2 - 100 straws, or 25 eggs from any deceased horse with the last owner’s permission*
See below: T2 - 25 eggs from any mare you own, up to 500 eggs total
$15 for 25 eggs
$25 for 50 eggs
$40 for 100 eggs
$75 for 250 eggs
$100 for 500 eggs

$25 to $100 (It seems like there are a lot of variables here. I wouldn't pay $100 to clone a bay pearl, but I would absolutely pay $100 to clone a stacked fantasy stud that I'd spent over $200 on.) T2 -Clone any deceased horse with breeder permission*, or any foundation horse you own regardless of breeder, or any lined horse you own with breeder permission*. **

$25-$50 T3 -Clone any lined horse and have it be created as a perfect ability foundation horse. **

$50-100 T4 - Design your dream Herd Helper, and receive it for 50,100,or 250 creates, lasting 5 days depending on how many GMTs it is valued at. Hard limit of 20 GMT worth of rare genes per herd helper. (Exceptional status counts as 5 GMTs)

$75 T4 -Create a background tack pack: YOU create up to 10, 500 by 500 px images. They must all be approved before I will accept payment. We will add the game logo and add it to the game as an option for any player to purchase, and you will get it automatically unlocked.

If tokens are used then it's $5 increments. I feel 2 tokens ($10) is a good price for a bunch of these. Maybe 3 tokens ($15)? Max would be 4 tokens ($20) for the high point horse, special herd helper, and backgrounds.

It cost $50 for a 100 acre pasture. And I haven't purchased that because it's a lot of money. If it cost 3 or 4 tokens ($5 tokens) I would buy it. Just using the pasture as reference.