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Height + Weight Heredity?
  • Hi there, long-time casual player, and now I'm starting to try an actual project. I am curious to know if/how much height and bone weight are heritable. That's the biggest factor in the project I'm considering, and I want to know if it's even possible to really breed for that beyond the foal being in the same weight class as same same parents.

    Thank you in advance!
    DAR
    ~they/them
  • What are you trying to do?

    Yes there is a genetic component to height. For example

    Tall Height Example

    If I breed this mare CW Starry thats 17.2 hands to a stallion DBLE2 Khan Special wthay that is also 17.2 hands this is what I ended up with:

    Foal 1: 17.0
    Foals 2: 18.0
    Foal 3: 17.1
    Foal 4: 17.3
    Foal 5: 18.0
    Foal 6: 18.0
    Foal 7: 18.0
    Foal 8: 17.2
    Foal 9: 17.1
    Foal 10: 17.3

    30% Less than 17.2 hands
    10% 17.2
    60% Over 17.2 hands

    I have the option to GMT any of them to the range of 16.3- 18.1 so +-3 when the parents are the same height. I could have gotten 10x 16.3s or 10x 18.1s. I also could have gotten any mix within the range (which is what I got).

    This would be the same with any height unless you are asking about the height regulator gene on the minis.
    | #59142 | Spotted | Reiner | Chocolatey | Enchanting | Stygien | Lunara |
    Thanked by 1DarkAngelsRising
  • Shorter Height example

    If I breed this mare 13579497 thats 13.2 hands to a stallion 13579498 that is also 13.2 hands this is what I ended up with:

    Foal 1: 13.3
    Foals 2: 13.1
    Foal 3: 14.0
    Foal 4: 13.3
    Foal 5: 13.0
    Foal 6: 13.2
    Foal 7: 13.0
    Foal 8: 13.1
    Foal 9: 14.0
    Foal 10: 13.3
    Foal 11: 13.2

    36% Less than 13.2
    18% 13.2 hands
    45% Over 13.2 hands

    I have the option to GMT any of them to the range of 12.3- 14.1 so +-3 when the parents are the same height. I could have gotten 10x 12.3s or 10x 14.1s. I also could have gotten any mix within the range (which is what I got).

    This would be the same with any height unless you are asking about the height regulator gene on the minis.
    | #59142 | Spotted | Reiner | Chocolatey | Enchanting | Stygien | Lunara |
  • Bone Weight example

    If I breed this mare 13579497 thats 1.52 Bone to a stallion 13579498 that is also 1.41 Bone this is what I ended up with:

    Foal 1: 1.37
    Foals 2: 1.38
    Foal 3: 1.53
    Foal 4: 1.60
    Foal 5: 1.54
    Foal 6: 1.58
    Foal 7: 1.49
    Foal 8: 1.48
    Foal 9: 1.42
    Foal 10: 1.58
    Foal 11: 1.50

    5/11 Light Bone
    6/11 Medium Bone

    I have the option to GMT any of them to the range of 1.17- 1.77 so +-.30 when the parents are the same height. In this case 1.52 (mare) + 1.41 (stallion) /2 = 1.46 =-.30

    This would be the same with any bone weight. I used light and medium for this example so it was easier to see.
    | #59142 | Spotted | Reiner | Chocolatey | Enchanting | Stygien | Lunara |
  • Opposite Bone Weights:


    Mare thats 0.66 Bone bred to a stallion thats 3.48 Bone

    I got a single colt with 2.19 Bone with a GMTable range of 1.77 to 2.37. So +-.30 from the parent average of 2.07.
    | #59142 | Spotted | Reiner | Chocolatey | Enchanting | Stygien | Lunara |
  • Opposite Heights Example:

    It would be similar if you bred a 12.0 mare to a 17.0 stallion the "average" or middle height would be 14.2 hands. So the range of offspring would be 14.2 hands +-3 to give a range of 13.3-15.1 hands possible for any offspring from a 12.0/17.0 pairing.
    | #59142 | Spotted | Reiner | Chocolatey | Enchanting | Stygien | Lunara |
  • The opposite heights/weights thing is interesting. Does that happen in real life?

    I only know that my boy is a bit taller than his Sire and a bit smaller than his Dam! Weight wise he’s kind of in between… (Anglo-Arab x Connemara)
  • @Seraphim falls based on my research yes and no. Real life genetics aren't guaranteed with sizes, and its a grey area. Some say the foal splits the difference and some say it'll be random.
    | #59142 | Spotted | Reiner | Chocolatey | Enchanting | Stygien | Lunara |
    Thanked by 1Seraphim falls
  • @cottonwoods , not completely random.. each parent shares genes..
    She/her my user # is 59035
  • @cottonwoods
    I'm trying to breed the biggest horses I can for both height and weight

    Thank you so much for taking the time to give me such in-depth answers!
    DAR
    ~they/them

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