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In this Discussion
- BlueValley May 2021
- CeffylDwr May 2021
- Cheers May 2021
- ForestRunners May 2021
- Haltanny May 2021
- kintara May 2021
- Looper May 2021
- pfrsue May 2021
- Seaswell May 2021
- stardustgirl May 2021
- Wildland Acres May 2021
Legacy Breeders
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I know a few of us breed for legacy lines on here, and I finally made a tattoo for mine! I'm going through my horses trying to sort out who needs it and who doesn't, and I wanted to ask: who do you all consider legacy horses? I know of the following (will update the list as I think of more):
- Khansuudyn Suns
- Dark Sun Rising
- Downfall of Death
- Invested
- Cold Days
- Dance Between Two Oceans
- Starchild Solorn
- Mr. Meteoric Milestone
- Studio Ghibli
- Studio Ponoc
- Apocalyptic Horseman
- The Mad Hatter
- Truffle Thumper
- Flor de la Mar
- Sassanach
- Ashen Heart
- Terfezia
- Day Of The Moon
- Freakish
- Freaky Dreamer
- TrialBruises
- Enlightened Mind
- Graveyard
- LightsOutInGeorgia
- Celebrate Sunshine
- DunStopBelievin
- Thermopolae
- Loose Morels
- Arkenstone
- Ilmen Ilumire
- The Final Studio
- Polar Vortex
- Misilweranta
- Illinsor
- Psychedelic
- Stars Acquired
- Rollick
- Aurelio
- Outlander
- FallFling
- RiverRunsDry
- Legal Esteem
- WindspunWoodrow
- Nathaniel
- Svamp Som Sinnadehast
- Illyria
- Second Star to the Right(?)
- Tyger Burning Bright
- Zigen's Grand Adventure
- Wakanda Forever
Also, is there a buddy chat for legacy breeders?Starred Stables
ID 51729
Mushroom, Splash M, Jewel Box, Shatterglass, Watercolor, Axiom Blue, Chinchilla, Phantom Apple, Phantom Lace, Phantom Web, Phantom Wisp, Ice 19, Ice 20
Wolf Moon—Satin Line
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Here's the list from my thread I started a while ago. :)
Studio Ghibli
Khansuudyn Sun
Ithildin
Studio Ghibli
Dance Between Two Oceans
Mr. Meteoric Milestone
Apocalyptic Horseman
The Mad Hatter
Truffle Thumper
Flor de la Mar
Sassanach
Ashen Heart
Terfezia
Day Of The Moon
Freakish
Freaky Dreamer
TrialBruises
Enlightened Mind
Cold Days
Invested
Graveyard
LightsOutInGeorgia
Celebrate Sunshine
DunStopBelievin
Starchild Solorn
Thermopolae
Loose Morels
Arkenstone
Ilmen Ilumire
Studio Ponoc
The Final Studio
Polar Vortex
Misilweranta
Illinsor
Psychedelic
Stars Acquired
Rollick
Aurelio
Outlander
FallFling
RiverRunsDry
Legal Esteem
WindspunWoodrow
Nathaniel
Svamp Som Sinnadehast
Illyria
Tyger Burning Bright
Zigen's Grand Adventure
Wakanda Forever
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Thank you so much @Looper!
Another question: what defines a legacy stallion? I've noticed some are the first expro/experf on the server, and then some have upwards of 200 foals while others have less than 150. Is there one defining characteristic?Starred Stables
ID 51729
Mushroom, Splash M, Jewel Box, Shatterglass, Watercolor, Axiom Blue, Chinchilla, Phantom Apple, Phantom Lace, Phantom Web, Phantom Wisp, Ice 19, Ice 20
Wolf Moon—Satin Line
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If there is a budy chat I would love to put my dark sun rises and invested sons up for breeding in it
All into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.Thanked by 1Looper -
What makes a legacy stallion?
1) something special—quality or genes
2) widely available for breeding to people other than the owner. Either public breeding or straws, or in the case of some of the really old guys, they’re widely present in prestigious pedigrees for “modern” breeders. In the case of the special milestone stallions from Ammit, everyone got a single straw.
3) “stamped their get” some sort of distinctive look that means you can often identify offspring at a glance, or they are suited to breeding into specific lines for specific traits.
4) while they were widely available for breeding, the quality of the offspring has remained high, and therefore still desirable.
Just my own two cents, would be interested to hear what others think.
Certainly looking at the list above I know I still have straws from a fair few of those stallions in my freezer or had offspring from them at some point in my herd.Thanked by 1stardustgirl -
I dream of someday seeing one of my boys get considered a legacy.
I second Cheers on what helps define them.Dabbler in EVERYTHING. -
Just a sidebar, but if the Nathaniel on the list was the one I owned (PFR HG Nathaniel), I have quite a few straws left from him. If anyone is interested, shoot me a PM so as not to hijack the conversation.--------------------------------
pfrsue: 42860
Pray For Rain Sport Horses - Gestalt Warmbloods and Drafts -
Wait, wait, wait, like my Flor de la Mar?
BV Flor de la Mar RS
Is one of my boys actually considered a legacy stallion now? :-O If so, I feel privileged! :xID# 25784Thanked by 1Looper -
@BlueValley he's one of my favorite Snowflake contributers :)
@CeffylDwr I knew something was bothering me when I was updating the list and when I saw your comment. Tyger's been in my line for a bit now. I missed him in updating the list because my eyes were crossing late in the night. :) Zigen and Wakanda are heading into the mix next season because they're fab! Your boys are in my project. :)
:D
TygAnnaG3E Keep It Burnin
Agree with @Cheers and would like to add it's also about your experience with the game. Who do you remember when you see those horses in the line and why? A legacy is a memory, left behind and passed on. It's everyone who has helped you or taught you something about why this game is here or events that happened in the course of your play or life while playing at the time you recognized it. Also which horses are just sheer beautiful and remarkable to you?
Not everyone's set of Legacy horses, stud or dame, will be or should be the same. :) -
@Looper Ahhh that makes me so happy! *happy dances* Let me know if you need straws/eggs from any of their lines or my other linesDabbler in EVERYTHING.
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Yes sadly on my boys, although one was one of the first expros, and in lots of old pedigrees, I had the bad luck that someone used him and stood an average son to the public, where he was used heaps but mostly poor quality stock used so doesn't really make any legacy list. Personally I haven't heard of probably at least half in the first Legacy list, some of what I'd consider Legacy stallions are in the lists though. For me it would be those very early exp pro/perfect stallions that were widely used, then all the ones Ammit made available for special occasions. Then some of the ones with rare genes (at the time) which made it special to have a foal from them. Most of the rest listed I just see as horses that had a lot of foals. Plus the relatively newer breeders would see much newer stallions as Legacy simply because they were the first ones they knew. Plus Legacy stallions are going to be different for many people, it will be those stallions that influenced your early breeding, it's awesome to remember them, but also I think I think it makes it hard to have a generic Legacy tattoo
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I think i'd consider legacy stallions as studs that were highly influential to your breeding program. I, personally, have very little outside blood except in my Era 0 bootstrap herd, so almost none of the listed stallions would be legacy's in my herds. My personal legacy studs would be mostly my own special foundations, like King Louie, Superbia and In Memoriam.
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I agree more with Cheers' definition. To me, a legacy stallions can be narrowed down to two elements: 1.) They carried (or carry) special genes--often when those genes were new and expensive or otherwise hard to access. 2.) Their genetics were shared with other players for enhancing or bringing a new element into their own lines.
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pfrsue: 42860
Pray For Rain Sport Horses - Gestalt Warmbloods and Drafts -
Are KitM and Pearl considered 'Special" genes?
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If you want them to be for your legacy line. I was just looking at my gen 4s and I have a lot of outside stock at foundation level so I can see who's barns I've been stalking over the years. I should make a list of who qualifies in my barns.45120