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@StonedUnicorn69

So just because they have better parents doesn't mean the foal will be equal to or better than the parents. The foals from 2 parents won't always be exactly the same, foals will be random based on the parents genetics. Sometimes you get worse than, equal to or better than the parents.

Breeding advice I believe alters horses that are significantly worse than the parents. Slightly worse, equal to or better stay intact.

SBA I believe alters, unless the horse is equal to or better than parents or at breeding cap.

Which horse are you speaking about? I looked at your two spayed foals and neither of them came from a Star* papered sire.

Below from FAQ User Guide
Breeding Advice (BA)
Horses that do not pass Breeding Advice WILL NOT be good breeding quality animals.
Intact horses are compared to both parents, or in the case of Foundation horses, a standard benchmark.
To pass BA horses may be slightly worse than, about as good, or better than their parents.
Offspring, or Foundation horses, that are found to be significantly worse than their parent/benchmark are automatically spayed or gelded.
Significantly worse, in this context, means a lot worse. If these horses are used for breeding, the quality of the line will substantially decrease, essentially putting you back to where you started.
Strict Breeding Advice
SBA is available to players with a Premium Upgrade
While Breeding Advice (BA) will allow foals who are slightly worse than their parents to remain intact, Strict Breeding Advice requires that the foal be the same as, or better quality than both parents. Only the finest foals pass SBA.
Comparison Testing
Comparison testing allows players with an upgrade to compare one intact stallion to another in your barn. This can be an important consideration when deciding between two similar stallions.
Comparison Testing will return one of the following results
‘Worse Than’ which means just that; Horse A will be a worse breeder than horse B
‘About As Good As’ (AGA) which means that horse A may have the same ability as horse B. It could be a little bit better or worse, but in general the horses will have similar breeding abilities.
‘Superior To’ means that horse A is a much better breeding horse than horse B.

@StonedUnicorn69 I'm gonna message you.

Sometimes you get "poor" quality horses. You're correct in the assumption she didn't fail testing, however the goal with each generation (new foal) is to be better or equal to their parents. So it's not that she was "poor" quality she just wasn't better.

The best way I can explain is the breed quality and breeding advice has a "tier" system for each paper level. The paper level represents a number we don't get to see.

You have low red, medium red and high red. I would assume your mare the dam of F1 Tryout is high red. In order to pass testing the filly would of needed to be medium red paper or higher. I assume she was low red.

Foals are compared to both parents, so if a Star papered stallion has a Red papered foal, it's never going to pass BA, as she is heaps worse than her sire.

The red papered foal/s from Red and B papered parents was probably worse than her parents, there is a range with each paper level, and there is a range each stallion/mare combination can throw. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes less so lol!

@FeldingFields Even if the resulting foal is Red papered, are you saying it could pass testing? I missed the change to BA though, interesting!

@Summervine I just ran a heap of my long pedigreed mares through BA!! I love this new (or not so new?) change to testing!!!