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Thank you! I knew this info available on the user guide already :) I’m really only curious about how boosting impacts the rankings if at all. If I was rich enough I’d run an experiment but that is way too many hbs and I do not possessed nearly enough, haha.

Thank you for the info, Ammit! What about the color boards since they’re not era locked? I’m assuming cause they aren’t era locked, boosted foals would improve placements?

Very interesting and informative, thank you so much!

Nothing to do with qualifying for the club. It only has to do with the best-producing list.

Well, I most certainly had not gotten that small detail, after 10 years in the game. If thats not me in a nut shell, then I dont know what is :))

Is that something that could be added to the FAQ/breeder's club page, Ammit?

Why wasn't this announced? I've been dumping loads of money into horses, buying boost, max abilities trying to get my horses on LBs to no avail. Well no wonder, my horses are all different eras so pretty much none of them count. I didn't pay attention to eras until futurities. I chose to use the color boards instead of era LBs for my horses because I didn't use eras.

Would've been nice to know when it was put in place as it's a pretty big deal, and means I pretty much need to redo my entire void herd if I want to be competitive.

@RLazyBRanch If you post one of your horses you think should be an LB contender I can take a look and see what is going on.

ETA: Looking at the clubs it does not look like your void herd is producing LB competitive foals, (the PT score still counts as before) so I don't think you've been impacted by this but as I said I am willing to take a look and see if it has. Your whole herd will end up normalizing to the lowest era you are breeding so it should resolve itself by the time you are LB competitive.

Happy to help you figure out what impact there has been and what needs to be done if anything. I am guessing nothing, but happy to look for you.

If you are already breeding those mixed eras together then your entire herd will quickly become the same era. If you don't care about the eras just breed them together and the whole lot of them will end up as era 9 in 1 to 2 generations. Looks like you are 4+ generations out from competing on those LBs so it probably would have happened with out you even noticing.

@RLazyBRanch if you end up finding that you can't breed your way to the same era let me know and I can help you out. There should be no reason to replace any mares in your herd.

I don't think you have an issue actually. That stallion is still perfectly fine for the era 13 futurity status. Nothing has changed with the futurity and breeding him yourself to era 12 mares does not impact his standing there. You were already going to breed him to era 12 mares so his foals in your herd were already going to be era 12 no matter what.

It's not a problem at all that you maxed the era 12 foals because he was never going to hit the LB anyway. And his foals were always going to be era 12.

Since he was not an LB contender in the first place I am not following why you think there this herd has been damaged somehow. Link the stallion you are talking about and I can take a look, but I am guessing it was never going to be possible for him to hit the LB. I am happy to look for you though and let you know for sure if there was any impact. (Eta: and help you sort things out if there was)

" I chose to use the color boards instead of era LBs for my horses because I didn't use eras." I am just going off what you posted. Foundation stallions won't be at the top of any of the color clubs.

And we can get your era 13 line sorted no problem. :)

So to clarify, and this is what I seem to have noticed. I mostly breed within eras, but also often use a stallion from a newer era on an older era to bring in a new bloodline. I didn't think it mattered as the foals just get the older era anyway. So with this update that stallion can't be on any LB because his foals are a different era? Why should a newer era, be penalised?

Exactly, there is zero penalty. It is just the eras working as they were clearly intended to. Without the big barns being able to artificially manipulate them and push out all the smaller accounts. Simply working as they were clearly intended to work now. It wasn't a "change" it was a minor bug fix, and I have yet to see any evidence otherwise of that. 10 months of business as usual in the color clubs clearly proves that.

I'm trying to find a few of my examples. Take this stallion for example, I did his 10 foals a couple of seasons ago and he never showed up on the LB, chinchilla I think. I thought it was weird, I didn't think he'd be a top horse, but at the time there was plenty of single *Star stallions on there, and he is **Star, so expected him to show up somewhere. Last season he was bred to some era 3 mares, and he showed immediately up. Is that how it is supposed to work?? I assumed a bug
https://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=10055407

Nuh, they only need 10, but if they have more only the best 10 count. He was just the first example I could think of, I've had quite a few the last few seasons that didn't go on the LB when I thought they should. It was only late last season I think when I realised that I had to breed to their own era, as I did it deliberately with a couple and it worked. I hadn't done enough test breedings to have enough info to put in a bug report yet though

They only need 10 foals to be on the leaderboard, I looked at the era 12 board and this stallion only has 11 foals but he’s on the leaderboard and was last season too.

$Alpha Aemilius E12

Is it the top 10 foals or the top 25 foals that are counted? Wiki and faq don’t agree.

Thanks! There so much conflicting/changing information on here I tend to only believe what I’ve 100% tested or what you have said. ^_^ I haven’t tested Lbs since Gondor was a youngin, like 16 months ago. A LOT has changed since then.

If you are breeding your horses together they will eventually end up at the same era. Whether that be era 0, era 1, etc. if you are boosting it will continue to change. Once you hit era 0 with boosting you won’t have to worry anymore.

In this regard boosted horses(not era 0)are actually at a disadvantage, because their boosted foals that aren’t their era don’t count. Also horses that aren’t bred evenly in eras. When I was boosting my lines to get to the bootstrap ability, none of those horses were eligible for leaderboards, even though they themselves could have easily been on leaderboards because I was boosting foals and breeding minimally.

One of my platinum studs, even though double boosted, is era 4. His best foals are era 3 so don’t count. In a couple of generations they will all be era 0 so I won’t have to worry.

You can only judge breeding ability by what they produce. Otherwise all double boosted horses would simply hold all leaderboards because they have the highest breeding ability. At least here, if you aren’t double boosting foals, everything that produces at cap are on the same field. (Including non boosted) Most of the horses in color clubs that are winning are boosted and will eventually end up at era 0.

If you don’t want to deal with boosting, the era clubs counter it. You also evenly breed in era clubs so you don’t have to worry about eras. You can also enter these into the bone weight clubs.

If you don’t want to deal with the era skipping you could always just breed foundation horses (in the color you want) to era 0 horses. All your 2g horses will be era 0 and you can continue from there. But some people don’t like the look of uneven pedigrees. With the new max ability this is easily the fastest way without boosting.

I personally think this system is well done. Everybody is at a disadvantage at some point and needs to figure out how to get around it.

I don't at all disagree with it being done with Era clubs.
I think it's a flaw in the system to have a low quality horse be higher on the LB just because it was bred to a far superior horse anyway, it's not reflective of it's ability to produce at all, just the superior horse it was bred to. I always thought it was a combination of the horses own ability, as well as foals produced, I didn't realise it did that. I can see it obviously creates an issue for era clubs then if horses are bred to high LB horses from older eras.
But it's completely stuffed up colour and size clubs, it hasn't made it easier for newer players at all there, as you say you just have to end up making everything era0 so you can breed them all together

I really do think a better system needs to be looked at, someway that era clubs only count foals bred within that era, but colour and size clubs don't, as they aren't era related. Maybe that means a better way to calculate best producing horses?