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Does consistency play a factor for you? Or do you just modify to consistent?

From Mesa I learned that consistency is inherited. A players best in pasture failed sba while others passed because of too much inconsistency in the line.

However for bootstrapping it probably doesn't matter as horses aren't tested

Okay. So this is a fun topic that never ends. The short story is:pt doesn’t matter for now. What you want is to get your stock as quickly as possibly to the breeding cap. The breeding cap is somewhere between star* and star**. (There are probably 10 levels between the first star and double boosted. I haven’t counted so don’t judge me on it, lmao)

Bootstrap horses aren’t tested not because of PT or inconsistency but because we boost above the natural breeding cap of the game. The natural breeding cap will only allow PTs of around 14(can be tempered with cloning)to be produced. Anything above that comes from a parent that is above the breeding cap. The higher the paper grade, the higher the PT a particular horse can produce. That’s why we need double boosting to hit that sweet PT cap of 15 pt. (Double boosted horses are 10% above the breeding cap) foals born to 2 double boosted horses will be at the breeding cap or near (1% diff normally). So if you try to compare a horse above the breeding cap, to a foal that hasn’t been boosted, the foal is guaranteed to fail.

I personally never boost anything that isn’t at the breeding cap. Now that Max is a thing my horses get maxed/consistent/checked for breeding cap and then finally allowed to enter my lines. The only caveat would be if your herd isn’t at the breeding cap yet. You can boost to hit it faster.

I would be happy to sell you a stud at the breeding cap to test against for create price.



I might have to take a deep dive into that thread on Mesa if I have some time. Something is fishy with it. I’m assuming it’s on the forums?

@pestilenttempest yes the forum
https://mesa.huntandjump.com/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/6057/bip-gelded#Item_17

And I would love a stud to test against <3

@SolandisStables

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I've never worried about consistency because I make all of my breeding stock perfectly consistent. ^_^ We'll see how it affects my bad breeders.

Is 13.9 the natural breeding cap and 15.3 the cap for double boosted?

Without any boosts what is the highest pt achievable?

I keep the double **Golds, and cull/spay the single *Golds

Thanks for the refresher, this post is just what I needed lol. I've been, more or less, away from the game for over a year now. Just been logging in here and there and breeding/showing at random.
Trying to bring back some young stock before all my stock ages out and cull what needs culling has had my mind running in circles. Boosting my boots has been no issue, but I don't have the ability to clone. It's been bugging me the past couple seasons, just knowing Ive forgotten need to know type info and not seeing any PTs higher than 14.5 from my boosted stock and descendants of the one stud I was able to double boost way back when. Reading thru this got me lined right out, thanks again!

Question: make sure I understand; if breeding double boosted horses, for a boosted line, it would look like this?

Foundation horse, Red paper, add 5% boost
Clone Foundation, max, add 5% boost
Breed
Max foal, take a sup foal, add 5% boost
Clone foal add 5% boost
And repeat process

Is that correct?

@SolandisStables yes that's double boosted, personally I only use it on the horses right on the breeding cap to get those breeding horses producing the 15+PTs, but I've seen people use it on low gen/foundation horses to get to max in least amount on generations possible. Depends on your goals

Is maxing clones a thing?

Clones are considered foundations so I'm not sure of maxing is a reasonable thing to do.

Example:

High pt bootstrapped foal is maxed and cloned. The clones pt comes out higher. Is it worth using 5 gmts to max? Is it better to make perfectly consistent? Or both?

I'm learning so much! Thank you all!

Can you max a clone of an unmaxed horse?

Still learning :D

Speaking of maxing and all. What effect does 1% boost have vs 5% and vs it to maxing?

Example: Red papered foundation with a pt of 9.6

If a 1% boost is used what will the horse have both paper and pt wise? And same with 5% boost?

If the horse is maxed what will the effect be?

I hope this question makes sense

What I do with my bootstraps is, most of the time I SBA all boys (and none make it, because I mostly use *** boys). The exception is if I am looking for a new stud, then I will use the one I like the looks of, and max and boost him. For mares, I keep all ** mares intact. Any below that needs to be superior to their dam to remain intact.