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  • WolfRanch
    Is it the DFP1 or the pangare+ that makes this boy look more brown than silver black?

    Silver Black Tobiano Appaloosa

    e/E, a/a, -/f, Sty/Sty, +/p, -/Z, DFP1/-, DP/-, sa/-

    TO/-, LP/-, snow/-, gp/-

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    WR 9031682
  • KaschStablesKaschStables
    If my understanding is correct, it'd be more because of the pangare+.
    He looks so handsome though!
  • WolfgangPrideWolfgangPride
    Definitely the p+ heres a link to all mine so you can see what it does to other coat colors
    https://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=go&jump=0&owner=554&128=0&129=0&137=1
    Wolfgang Pride ID 554
    Always willing to help. Licensed for everything. Specialize in Liver Chestnuts, Chocolate Palominos, Sabino, Tobiano. But I breed everything except Frame
    She/her
  • WolfgangPrideWolfgangPride
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    2G Keep Me In The Loop
    Similar with this mare except yours also has regular pangare
    Wolfgang Pride ID 554
    Always willing to help. Licensed for everything. Specialize in Liver Chestnuts, Chocolate Palominos, Sabino, Tobiano. But I breed everything except Frame
    She/her
  • WolfRanch
    Interesting, and I love it! May have to keep breeding towards that a bit more! Thank so much both of you!
  • WolfgangPrideWolfgangPride
    No problem :) I have tons of you need help I personally love it so much probably my favorite one black coats
    Wolfgang Pride ID 554
    Always willing to help. Licensed for everything. Specialize in Liver Chestnuts, Chocolate Palominos, Sabino, Tobiano. But I breed everything except Frame
    She/her
  • WolfRanch
    Thank you I also love black coats and the variations. This one is especially pretty but never really noticed the color before I have a lot of silver black mares with pangare so hoping to get some girls from my pangare+ stud
  • WolfgangPrideWolfgangPride
    Wish you all the luck I have studs and mares I can sell straws or eggs from if need be :)
    Wolfgang Pride ID 554
    Always willing to help. Licensed for everything. Specialize in Liver Chestnuts, Chocolate Palominos, Sabino, Tobiano. But I breed everything except Frame
    She/her
  • WolfRanch
    Thank you! I'll definitely let you know if I have any trouble breeding some! As I probably will lol
  • WolfRanch
    Ok I have another one.. What makes her brindle?
    Classic Champagne Dun Appaloosa Brindle

    Pigment Modifiers
    Black: e/E Bay: a/a Cream: -/Prl Dun: D/- Sooty: S+/Sty Pangare: p/- Champagne: -/Ch Tiger Eye: -/TE2 Dun Factor Promoter: DFP1/DFP1 Satin: -/sa
    White Markings
    Appaloosa: -/LPAppaloosa Blanket Size: PATN1/PATN1


    Additional Info
    White Factor: Minimal

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    WR
  • silverborn
    The only thing i can think of is that the chimera skipped a generation somehow? But she looks like she's coded like one of the old style brindles with a single DNA set..... odd.
  • WolfRanch
    Yeah I thought it was strange as well. A skipped generation would make sense, but I also thought it was strange she didn't have any chimera or a second DNA strand...
  • VioletStables
    Its caused by the hom DFP1
    ID# 30479

  • WolfRanch
    That was one of my guesses but wasn't sure, thanks!
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