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Diary of a very pangere + hybrid breeding project
  • An Introduction to various breeding schemes and my perceived pros and cons of them:

    Hi. So one of the things I like about this game is the wide multitude of different ways people can do it, and one of the things I like best is discovering different ways to tweak things. Generation breeding was what was main stream when I started. With this you get the highest amount of intact foals when taken through breeding advice, which is a very useful tool and saves 100's of thousands of hbs worth of comparison testing, plus has the accomplishment of the real life years involved in creating a 6th gen even horse from your home foundation stock, but with that you need separate pastures for each gen you breed unless you do barn breeding, and I personally get frustrated with how I can't breed my highest gen stock waiting for more horses of that gen to be born till there are enough to justify a pasture for them(Right now I am waiting on my gen 6s to accumulate of proper quality for my tastes).
    Classic bootstrapping, finding the highest gen mares or stallions and breeding them to the horses you have to breed up the quality/ colors you want as fast as possible is a strategy I have enjoyed for years. You only need one pasture for your line (2 if you have a high stallion line and another line for high mares trying to breed in newer colors going) You get high quality quickly and theoretically the offspring should be amazing show ponies, but I will have to check it out again, I am under the impression that 2nd gen foals are usually the most profitable show ponies, but I would need to pay more attention to the leaderboards and various player experiments to be more confident in that. If you love those star papers and high pts bootstrapping is a quick way to go. This used to be a good way to try to get awards too, though most bootstrap herds are era 0 and the leader board for that is chalk full of double boosters now, so the best way to compete for awards in era 0 is to double boost your horses too. In all reality the classic bootstrap herds have hit the ceiling and since that ceiling cap is what they chase I am finding there is not much left for me to be discovering with it anymore despite how much I love bootstrap breeding and the herd I have because of it. But I am at the point of wanting to experiment with something new... Hence my hybrid herd was born!
    All into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.
    Thanked by 1WyldWood
  • Hybrid Breeding:

    This new project is crossing bootstrap breeding with a strategy I played with a little bit on bluegrass server before putting all my loyalty into my forrest bootstrap herd. I got the highest quality foundation stud I could get my hands on, Dunbar, put a bunch of genes on him I wanted for my new project line and threw him into my odds and ends pasture that I kept throwing mares into that didn't go in other pastures but still kept breeding them for show foals. This consisted mostly of foundation mares of various paper levels (I only have one failed mare in there, but yes, even failed papers are in there) and mares that got transitioned out of my classic bootstrap pasture for either not having the genes or quality that I wanted in there. I used to not really care about what came out of that pasture... but that changed. Gold foals with Dunbar's pangeree + from the classic mares go back to the classic bootstrap to introduce the gene to the era 0 line. But red fillies from the foundation mares were kept to put back in the same pasture with the idea of keeping the highest colt and filly descendants of these foundation horses and keep everyone in the same pasture that just incrementally keeps getting better. This does mean that they will be inbred, uneven and the faces will be constantly changing so I will need to be careful about getting too attached to any one horse. But only one pasture is needed for the line and this is a breeding scheme that can be done with 100% foundation horses at the start.
    All into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.
    Thanked by 1WyldWood
  • I'm excited to hear about your hybrid herd! I think I'm getting close to the breeding cap with my upper gens and I don't love them enough to boost and keep chasing PT, so I'm interested to hear how your hybrid herd works!

    I was following another one of your breeding experiments a few years back in this thread and I have a very successful program following that model on my other account. I've been bootstrapping based on PT instead of paper using only the testing options available to a free account and so far it's been pretty successful and fun to see just how much you can do with one pasture, PT testing, and breeding advice.
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  • Excitement with the hybrid horses this month!

    To be honest, it has been a couple months since I have started this herd. I have a nice passel of fillies from this that were filling up the extra spaces in that pasture while I am waiting for them to age up. Most of them are 2 year olds, but I have 3 3 year old fillies that I am excited about for next year... But that is not the only 3 year old I am excited about. I have a a superior to sire 2g colt that is in pasture with his father and I am excited to see what happens there! My fingers are crossed for blue fillies this month which will mean I will transition to only keeping blue papered fillies in the future. Another thing that happened this month, is as I am transitioning this pasture to a serious pasture and it was getting filled I went through and moved out 30 mares that aren't promising for either pangeree + inclusion brood mares for the classic herd or for my foundation based craziness going on, so now there is plenty of room to move in new foals when next roll over comes around, but with the new fillies aging up I am going to start weeding out lower papered mares from the hybrid line starting next month. (Sorry failed girl, you have actually been a better brood mare for me than several of your higher papered pasture sisters... but it will be your turn o move out next month)

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    His second gen son, so excited to see what he does once pastures open up!
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    The 3 3 year old fillies I am waiting for next month on.
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    The failed papered mare who will be baking retired next month when the above girls age up
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    All into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.
    Thanked by 1WyldWood
  • Thanks for finding that thread again @HTRanch ! I am pretty sure all my horses in that line have aged out by now it has been so long since I have done anything on that account, but I and trying to get something like that going again with this herd! This one is still really young, but promising start so far and so excited to see what happens in pasture this time!
    All into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.
  • I had gotten up to star studs in the previous herd from that thread you have linked... But trying to juggle all my accounts were too much for me (Theoretically I have 4 spred across the three servers... but just keeping up with this one alone is too much for me sometimes so everyone else usually go real life years between visits)
    All into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.
    Thanked by 1WyldWood
  • Had to stay up for pasture breeding to see how these guys did. Out of 8 fillies from failed- red papered mares bred to either Dunbar or Cattle Prod 5 were blue papered fillies so I will not be collecting any more red papered fillies for this herd. Out of 9 colts 2 were superior to Dunbar, so next month will be sadly his last month in the pasture despite all the get work that went into him. Maybe I will set him to stud or auction him or something. Still need to do testing on the two upstarts to see which one or if both of them will be taking the pasture away from Dunbar and Cattle Prod both. (Of coarse they are both chestnuts! XD). Cattle is the 2nd highest stud in era 7 leaderboard at the moment so I will say that the direction this herd is going a promising... if still a chestnut laden one. Was a good month for the Hybrids!

    My favorite foal of the year for these guys even though she will be a show pony image
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    The two upstarts
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    All into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.
    Thanked by 1WyldWood
  • This is such a fun thread! Totally makes me reconsider what I want to do with my bootstrap line. Once I can afford another pasture, this is totally up my alley!
    I'll def be keeping an eye out if you do decide to auction Dunbar - he is such a handsome boy!
    Thanked by 1Wildland Acres
  • This is inspiring to find ways to keep it fresh and interesting!
  • Ok, sorry about not keeping things up to date. 3 months from the last update on the last update on the herd. This it the first month that the first blue fillies I talked about in the last update were able to breed and a lot has happened.

    I went with the second colt to throw into the pasture. He is better than Dunbar but I still wasn't too thrilled with him so I tried a different 3 year old colt who ended up being better than Spitfire.
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    How do I know that he is better? Because my studs are already up there in the era 7 leaderboards. Cattle Prod keeps jumping between #1 and #2 and I don't know what is going on with that. Spitfire is #6, and the new guy is #4. Pt scores for the foals are in the late 10 pt range to a few even up to 11.5 with a mix of red mares and the first blue mares this group produced. I will probably keep onto the red mares till either there are space concerns or I get my first gold fillies, especially since I have some rare gene red foundation mares I would like to get a few more breedings out of them.

    Next month I am planning on switching the new stud with this guy
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    But even this guy will only be here in pasture for 1 month as I got this little boy this month. image
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    He tests superior to Spitfire who tested aga to Cattle Prod, so that means this guy is even a little better than Cattle Prod!... Now the fact that he has a fantasy gene kinda sucks because I want to see my boys on the era 7 leader board, kinda the purpose of this herd, so I will be looking into replacing him with a none fantasy stud when I get one of equal or better quality, but he is the best quality and so he will get a pasture spot.

    As far as fillies, I got 5 blue fillies this month... But due to spaying accidents I only have 3 intact. Trying to decide if it is worth trying to find the other two in the unfix menus, but these are the three new fillies from this month. Yes, I do throw my gene dump mares from the fantasy gene sales in here so they are actually used so I do have a bit of fantasy genes in ere too. The hope is that enough horses stay not fantasy genes to allow the herd to still do well on the leaderboards.
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    So yeah. 6 months into it and lets see what happens from here!
    All into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.

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