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- BlaxkDiamond August 2021
- silverborn August 2021
- StormwoodFarm August 2021
Switching Riding Disciplines is hard
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So I have been riding western for the past 15/16 years, and recently decided to switch to english specifically dressage. Oof it’s been hard. The place I live is primarily ranching. Horses either have a job as a ranch horse or are a rodeo horse. There are probably 10 people in town who own an English saddle. So finding an instructor is pretty much impossible at the moment.
I have always compared teaching a horse is comparable to teaching a child to read. First they have to learn the alphabet then put the letters together to form words. A rollback would be a 4 letter word. Go, stop, turn, go. Western was easy to learn there are several books and YouTube that go step by step on what to teach the horse and things you should work on in a methodical manner that works for the horses.
English is different. They give you hints for how to make advanced things better, but I have yet to find something that gives steps 1-10 they usually go on about how important the basics are but don’t show any for a rider just starting. I tried watching some videos on retraining OTTB but that doesn’t quite work for me, they don’t really show a novice how to do the training. Just what they the skilled trainer are doing.
So if anyone has a good A,B,C list of things to start with I would love to see it. Or if you know of a good YouTube channel that teaches the basics... -
Not dressage, but some of the basics that will still apply...
I would recommend Hunter Seat Equitation by George Morris. The book has great images that show the rider position and why, and it also has exercises.
Good luck! :) -
@StormwoodFarm thank you. It’s sounds amazing, adding it to my amazon list now.
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I really recommend the pony club manuals, too. They're written to a younger reading level (the D level book is meant for younger kids) but C and B especially have a lot of advice for the why and how for dressage.
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Thank you.
I think my biggest issue is how to train different things, and how to do them correctly. Like correct contact on the bit... 99% of my riding prior has been on a loose rein and the only time I had contact with her mouth was when I needed something now, and she wasn’t paying attention. So that’s been interesting.
I also don’t know where we fall training wise. There are a lot of things we can do, not with great form, but we can do them. Like lead changes every couple strides, I’m not sure how many strides between exactly but less than four. So we need to start at the beginning for form, but at the same time are we better than I think we are... -
Ooh, yes. I've only ridden H/J, but I can imagine switching disciplines can be really tricky! There was an interesting podcast by Noelle Floyd's group about "frame" and how is varies by discipline.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7ElYSlMdK8vPCd4RgrunT4?si=1b49b5659f4b4357
I know that in dressage, different levels have different "frames" which is why many upper level H/J trainers will suggest dressage training to a certain point for those in the H/J arena, before the "frame" changes to something that would be counterproductive in our show ring. -
@StormwoodFarm's that's exactly what I'm bumping into, frame was never important before... Or it was important, but not a main focus. Now it seems like a main focus. I know we aren't even at a decent beginner frame most of the time. Also getting used to word changes has been tricky. frame/form, hack/trail ride.
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Word changes can vary by person, as well! Sometimes "hack" just means that you're flatting a horse. It's definitely a challenge. I'm no professional, but the big thing with "frame" is that it should come primarily from your leg. (leg to hand). I also sometimes use a Pessoa rig with my horse for lunging. You can adjust the settings depending on what kind of "frame" you're looking to achieve!
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Huh. Thats a new one with creating frame. I understood it that your seat can create, or kill a good frame, but not that it is dependent on your legs.
I have seen images of a Pessoa but didn’t know the name. -
Yes! You need to create the impulsion from behind with the leg. Always so many things to think about with horses!
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Ahh. I don’t really use my legs for speed anymore, just direction. Impulsion isn’t something I’ve worked on at all, obviously lol.
I trained my mare to read my seat, a light squeeze, or a toe wiggle, for picking up a faster gate. I also trained her to maintain whatever gait I put her in. So I normally don’t have to remind her, to stay at a walk trot or canter.