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- AHayesHorses July 2020
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Need some advice..
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Ive been seriously contemplating this for quite a while, but ive never actually decided to move forward with it..
When i started this game, i had MAD shiny syndrome. (Heck I still kinda do) all i wanted was drafts with satin and every possible fantasy gene.. I didn't really care about show ponies (wasn't my top priority), and i wasn't using sba too much.
Now, fast forward about two years, and im tired of the way my stable operates. I dont like where my lines are going, i don't like the fact that im not organized at ALL.. Ive been favoring my foundations over later gens and im seeing my older/higher stock die off.
Should i just say screw it, and auction off most of my horses (minus gifts and what fit my parameters to a T)? What should be my show horse cut off, should i auction them off at a certain point if their payout isn't high enough? Im quite nostalgic about my older horses, but i also want to progress my lines and i feel like they are somewhat holding me back. :( -
A few months ago, I took 3-4 months off from breeding my later gens with the specific focus of improving the quality in gens 2-4. When I did return to breeding my higher gens, it was much smoother and I enjoyed it a lot more! It's ok to take a break, you don't have to breed everything or keep everything if you don't want to!
As far as show horses go, when I cull I cull horses who have finished their training (age 11-12-ish) and who are making less than 7-8 points in a month.
I hope you find a system that makes breeding satisfying and enjoyable!ID 43830
It's nice to be back! :)
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how are you on barn space? If you have room I would keep anything with points for a show herd. I don't sba either, but I keep breeding stock based off of improvement. That is the only way to play the game, but if you do that I would figure out quality cutoffs for each generation and put everything below the into your show herd. I also have found that I don't have space/ time for higher generations aside from bootstrap. I have found that I am honestly getting excited for when my foundation stud ages out so I can sell of my foundations and get my 4th gens into pasture and start breeding them, and that will give me time to be picky on generation quality with my fifth gens and build up a group of them before the second gens give them their pasture.All into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.
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I’m going through the same transition phase. I’m still breeding basically anything and everything at higher gens because that’s where I get my good show ponies. I yum anything inconsistent or with less than 10.5 PT.
For my breeding stock, I’m getting rid of studs that don’t fit, and mares that won’t produce what I want when crossed with my studs (For example, I’m working towards dark bay sabinos. I’ll keep sooty black sabino mares because the foal can pick up the bay from dad). Because of this, I’m yumming a huge percent of my second Gen foals because they didn’t get the right genes and the PT is usually in the 10.2 range.
I’m still pretty early in my transition, but I’m seeing some improvement with my upcoming breeding stock.
ETA: My breeding stock must test better than the parent, if not a paper level higher. Sometimes I let AGA slip by if I really like their colour, but I usually end up snipping them after a couple seasons because they don’t produce the quality I want. -
I’m strict with my intact horses, unless the horse is perfect everyone is required to pass SBA and comp superior to stay (if it’s perfect, it must pass SBA). I breed my foundations until they pass, and just keep adding pastures as I see a need. I don’t breed pastures unless they have a 30 day bonus, and I will replace pasture mares with upcoming fillies if they have more desirable genes/better PT/better paper. Currently I have up to gen 5 in pasture and still breeding the foundation for that line, and still seeing line improvements.
For show horses, I keep just about every foal I breed that gets snipped, and I ignore until they turn 10. At that point, I look at who is leveled off and not bringing in many points. If you are under 15 points by the time 4 shows have run for the month, you get sent to auction. I’m also always grabbing pointed creates from the sales list or auction to help my show bonus.
For organization, I have one 120 stall barn per line. My young fillies go there to grow up, and once they start hitting breeding age I reevaluate if they are going to pasture, being offered for sale, or being snipped. All horses must have their generation in their name (this sometimes gets missed and I need to go back and add it later). My show barns are all named, my sales barn is named, my stud barn is named. I’m regularly going through my barns and making sure everyone is where they need to be. The mass naming feature helps a lot. -
Ok so back when i started in 2015, there was very little in the way of shiny/fantasy genes. Satin was ridiculously expensive. So i just bought cheap horses that i thought looked pretty and bred them. For the most part i did well with breeding foundations together but i had no organization, no quality control, only a free account doing hand breeding, etc. I was breeding yellow papered offspring because they were "too pretty" to geld or spay. It was an absolute mess. I decided to slowly start introducing structure. I gelded and spayed everything that i didn't want to breed. I have changed tactics many times over the years. I believe it was 2 years ago when I finally said "screw it" and spayed over 500 mares that did not meet my current breeding requirements (mind you bulk altering did not exist then). I kept EVERYTHING as show ponies. Nowadays, 5 years later, i am beyond strict in my breeding criteria. My foundation studs are mostly A papered with the exception of my Nexus line which are B papered (absolutely NO C or Yellow anymore besides one stud who will age out soon). I snip EVERYTHING that does not meet even the slightest of expectations. I only have 1000 stalls barns now, nothing smaller (a difficult task if you don't have the hbs... do NOT do what I did and sell off all your smaller barns to buy the 1000 stall ones because it took me 3 months or more to get the 6000 horses out of my primary barn and i couldn't breed during those months :)) ). I would say, if you really want to start over, start by choosing your studs. Once you do that, only keep the mares you want for each stud intact. Everything else gets the snip and put into the show herd.
As for show ponies, i cull at 10 and 15. By 10 years old, they MUST have 500+ points. Anything less than 500 points gets tossed into the auction. At 15 years old, they MUST have 1000+ points or they get auctioned. I go through at the start of each season and bulk auction everything that doesn't meet those requirements :)
Feel free to ask me any questions here or in pm! Happy to share my breeding stock cull requirements if interested! Just be patient because changing things around is a lengthy and time consuming process! It will take a while!Bluegrass Server: HayesStable - 221755
Forest Server: AHayesHorses - 4344
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A few times in the history of Hunt and jump Ammit has encouraged everyone to purge horses. It can be hard to let horses go but it can also be super liberating.
I haven’t done a complete purge in a few years but a few years ago I was feeling unexcited about any of my lines on either server. So I sat down and went through my horses and snipped any I didn’t love and made a lists of genes I had organized by love, like, loathe.
Then I picked 2 of the genes from the love column to be my primary and secondary line goals. HJ1 - Nexus & KP, HJ2 - Ice & Satin
I snipped any that had genes on the loathe list
I also went through and revamped my naming system to make it easier to match horses for breeding or sorting. I also renamed by barns and pastures using the same system so I just have to send the horse to the barn or pasture with the same prefix.
Since then I’ve streamlined my breeding requirements every time I’ve started to avoid things so that what I was breeding was what I really wanted to be breeding.
I also find it therapeutic to snip so gleefully run through my barns with scissors every few months and tighten up any loose fencing in the pasturesBreeding even generation Grullos with Ice -
I've recently combined all my lines into one huge herd. Mostly because i wasn't satisfied with the quality in my 2 small lines. The problem was because i had A papered foundation studs in the main line and used a lot of yellow mares, occasionally C studs in the other two. I went through all my 2 gen mares from the 2 small lines and snipped anything that wasn't Superior to an exceptional (Red) mare, even if their dam was yellow. The 3 gens had to be AGA a Blue foundation mare, i tried for Superior, but that would have left too few mares. 4 gen had to be AGA a Blue mare that is AGA a Gold, again, i wanted AGA Gold, but it would've been too few mares. This culled just over 50% of the mares in those lines, any withh close to 500 points or more became a show horse. I culled most of the stallions from the 2 small lines except the foundation boys and have been using the very best studs from the main line on those mares. A couple more seasons and the 2 small lines should be at the same level as the main line with getting Star/Gold 3 Gens. When that happens, i might seperate them again into fansty gene and a non-fantasy gene but maintain the same strictness. Haven't decided yet.
As for show horses, i pretty much keep all of them. I do a small cull for 10+yr olds and remove any that don't have a certain amount of points, which changes each season depending on how much room i want for yearlings. Aside from that, i keep all horses until they pass.
If you have some lined horses you really like the looks of and/or have sentimental value but aren't up to par quality wise, you could consider using much higher quality outside blood to boost the next generation a bit. For example, if you have a handful of red 4th generation mares that you're really attached to, you could use a Star 4th gen stud (even better if sired by a Star 3rd gen). Dont SBA/BA the offspring, just keep the fillies that are superior to their dams. That would make your 5th gen better than if you used your normal 4th gen stud. Something to consider for those extra special sentimental ones.#28036 -
I too started with shiney pony syndrome. I also merged all my accounts into one big one after playing for over a year. It took a good 6 months to cull all the extra breeding stock that suddenly flooded my barn from mixing multiple lines. Developing a breeding strategy took a while.
Now I have each generation in their own barn, and pastures for G2, G3, and G4. I try to keep the best mares in pasture, going through them after they are bred to make room for the new recruits. I also dump anything above G5 into my bootstrap herd as I'm just not interested in even breeding above that point.
G2 studs must be superior to sire, and I've almost completed the cross over to G3 must be A papered. I've recently started testing G4 and G5 just to keep the quality improving. I've seen a couple golds and a star at G4 in the last couple months, so I know I'm on the right track.
As for show ponies, If they get named they get kept till they are 14. At that age I do a heavy cull for low earners. Only high damages will get a horse kicked out early.45120 -
A while ago I got very bored with the game, not because of how it ran but because of how I played it. I ended up leaving the game for about 18 months. When I came back I had a much better idea of how I wanted my stock to be. I completely sold everything to start again. Now I keep every horse I breed unless they sell, if they don’t they get shipped and put in the show barn. Doing this has meant that my show bonus went from 5k (after playing for 2 years and focusing only on breeding) to 10k in just over 4 months. I also sold back all my small barns and bought bigger ones.
I am now also very strict with my lines, I made 3 new studs with all my favourite genes on, two C papered and 1 B papered. For each gen they must either paper higher or comp test higher that their parents/ predecessors before them. I am now back to loving the game and I can’t wait to get 3rd gen going