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- Bandit1119 June 2020
- BlueJumpingBean June 2020
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Straws vs Foals Gifting Question
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Here is a completely non-hypothetical question that I'm curious to see how people feel.
When you get a straw, it comes with a ton of possibilities. You can cross them all on your favorite mare in sequential months. You can save them for when you have more time/fewer projects. You can use them on broods owned by others or combine them with exotic eggs. But they also come with expenses. Just breeding the foal is a 3000 hb bill, not to mention all the testing. Plus, the foals may not even come out intact.
Receiving foals has fewer possibilities - the genetics are set, unless you pay to change them, and the ability to change them will be limited to their parents' genetics - but also far fewer costs. If the foal has already been tested, it's only going to cost 1 hb, and it'll be known to be intact with the desired genes.
So, if your gift form indicated you wanted foals with certain genetics, would you rather receive the possibilities of the straw, or the known genetics and breed-ability of the foal?
(please also include your daily payout if you answer so I can see how opinions change with barn size/development)~Purveyor of the finest riding horses in Rakia~
Specializing in dun with the perfect amount of white.
Always ISOs: Dun Splash Expros, show ponies, Onyx ponies, star riding horse straws -
I personally always love actual foals over straws. Not that I'm ever opposed to straws, I just find that I end up with so many that they often just get forgotten for long periods of time. Plus it's just so disappointing with so many being spelded or not living up to my breeding standards.
I may be an outlier however because I do very little if any straw/embryo breeding normally anyway.
(pay just under $375k)Thanked by 1FeldingFields -
My daily payout is about 250k right now, down from 280k before rollover. Honestly, it depends for me. All my second gens have to paper A or Blue, which means that I lose a decent number of the foals I breed by AI (I really only use foundation straws). I do enjoy the process of straw breeding, but usually I don't get keeper foals. So a good second gen A or Blue foal from an outside stud that will bring both quality and variety to my herd is more valuable to me than a straw.ID 43830
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<>| Era 16 project - belton spotted tobianos |<>Thanked by 1FeldingFields -
I like both, but my preference would be foals. Straws just seem to sit around for me. Although I still buy plenty of straws to save for a rainy day. My current payout is close to 10k(I took a long break :P )BlueJumpingBean 28718
Zillian Sport Ponies with DP and various white markings-Champagne Drafts
Genes: Jellyfish, Mushroom, Chinchilla & Splash M (thank you Goobanni!)Thanked by 1FeldingFields -
I have a daily just over 250k, and while I do some straw breeding every season, what makes me squeal is a pretty pony.45120Thanked by 1FeldingFields
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Lol I'm going to be maddeningly unhelpful, but I like both. I really like breeding to my own mares, but I also like getting babies that I know will stay intact. But, I make almost 500k a day, so paying for spelded babies doesn't bother me much.Thanked by 1FeldingFields
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I love getting tested foals. :) Happy to tweek a few genes to get them perfect. Foals from gifted straws can be a glorious surprise, but spelds are heartbreaking even though they often end up being amoung the best for my show herd. :)
I am speaking out of experience prior to the boost that Ammit just gave breeding mares in lab though.
I'm at 110k now but that may turn into 95-100k-ish as I just did a big show cull.Thanked by 1FeldingFields -
Personally for Secret Santa I often calculate the costs associated with my gifts (vet fees and embryo transfers) and add a monetary gift to cover them.
I also prefer straws and eggs because very few people breed with similar goals as me and I have a difficult time finding horses that don’t get snipped in some round of culling as I don’t separate homebred from outside lines and treat all equallyBreeding even generation Grullos with Ice