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- Ammit May 2020
- BlaxkDiamond May 2020
- FallenShadows714 May 2020
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Horse Emergency Fund Question
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So far I have been extremely lucky with my mare not getting injured since I’ve owned her. However there have been several close calls over the past few months, and I realized that I really should have a emergency fund. I’m wondering how much those who have, or have had horses tend to save? I have been setting between $50-100 aside for horse related things each month, which could be used for injuries if she gets hurt in the near future, but it wasn’t intended for vet bills.
My questions are
1. How much do you put away per month?
2. Or what chunk of cash do you have set aside for injuries?
3. Any rough estimates on how much injuries have cost you?
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I had a mare who colicked, we had 4 farm calls plus a 6 day stay at a vet clinic with 24/7 monitoring/IV treatments. That totaled just under $10k. It’s worth noting this was a private clinic that only took on 4 horses at a time, so the fees were a bit on the higher end.
But we put about $200 away a month, and my parents were always willing to help out and we pay them back. This was when I was living at home and didn’t have as many bills. We didn’t have too many big problems except for the colic, but its worth trying to find out from your vet how much a farm call costs, and what that will cover/what would be considered extra charges. Obviously medications/injections/sutures would be extra. But do they charge a flat fee for the whole visit, or is it a flat fee just to come out and then they charge for how long they are out there? I would also try to ask how much the normal medications the vet would prescribe would cost.
I would also put some energy into barn/pasture maintenance. Walk the fence lines every other week and after every storm. Keep track of any underground critters that might make holes in the field. Keep the stall in good condition. Half the battle is knowing there isn’t much your horse can find to get into trouble with. -
I’ve worked in the horse industry for years, currently at a boarding farm with 35 horses that see plenty of farm calls. Vet visits to the farm are typically somewhere between 300-500 a visit. Basic Injuries, one set of xrays, something mild injected, etc. normally they don’t go over 1,000 unless the vet has to make multiple trips. But we can do iv shots in house, pull stitches, etc so our boarders don’t have as many vets bills as a lot of other places.
I typically expect $100 yearly coggibs/shots + farm call. 200-300 when teeth are done yearly.
My vet charges a flat fee + an additional fee based on the time he was at the farm. For taking a coggins he charged me $31 On a $40 coggins so I paid him nearly as much to draw blood as to have the test done, $81 total. Vets around here are terrible with trip fees. He works 10 minutes from the barn and worked with my horse for 30 seconds. Ugh.
I normally keep 1,000 set aside at all time for injuries to my horse. Freak accidents happen, no matter how careful you are. My filly had 10 stitches because she scraped along the edge of an arena. -
My emergency vet fun has about $5,000 saved. my vet fund is for my 2 dogs, a cat, a guinea pig and my horse.I also cant dip into this money as it is in the credit of my vet account. With it being so high ive now dropped to only putting $25 a week into it. Touch wood my animals dont know this as when ever they "find out" mum has money saved someone gets hurt. but i use to put $100 into it a week but within a year you have saved $5200 doing so most my animals hardly ever hurt them selves and if they do it usually comes in under $500 for me. however I have an obsession with buying misstreated dogs rehabilitating and rehoming them which is when my account starts getting sore. my last rehab dog costed us $3,500 in 4 months due to vet bills (long story however he is now living his best life with his new family and they praise me for the work ive put into him)
What i do every 6 months is go through my bills record and evaluate how much is being spent where (im scared for my next re-evaluate because of this game) tally it all up into a yearly cost then break everything down by deviding it by 52 (a weekly cost) this then shows me if I need to cut back on spending if not this then give me "play money" that i then put into my savings account for me to spend where I like or add onto other bills that will put me ahead im usually on avrage ahead of all bills by 2 payments so for if any reason I cannot pay a bill I can :)51430 -
I few grand I think is reasonable for a horse. Emergency vet bills can be very high.Need to contact me? Read this first. Only send me a PM for PayPal issues or if I ask you to. Otherwise, make a forum post. You will get a better faster answer by making a post.
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Yes, at least a couple thousand if you can.
I did a lot of my own vet work so I only really needed an actual vet for pulling Coggins papers and truly serious problems. Most of my emergency farm calls for my horses ran me a couple hundred, usually for sick rescues, but the one really bad emergency was much more than that. A mini/Shetland type mare who had been a family pet for many years came down with extreme colic completely out of the blue. Three grand in vet bills and a whole lot of misery for us all later, she was gone. If she had survived the surgery, the bills would have been even higher.
My dog vet (he didn't do livestock or farm calls but was AMAZING with dogs) had a running account for me and I paid him $200 a month for years whether I owed him anything or not because we both knew I would end up with another sick or hurt puppy that ran up a huge bill. People have always dumped dogs in my yard, kind of like the momma Lab living on the porch now that someone dumped just before she gifted us with ten pups. lol~*~ Justa ~*~
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Thank you for the helpful insight, I definitely have an idea of how much I need. The most likely culprit for injuries is barbwire, since it’s the primary fencing material here. Both of her close calls involved wire.
@FallenShadows714, I make sure the corrals or pasture she is in are nice and tidy, a pet peeve of mine is horses that are in a yard full of junk. -
Oh gosh barb wire is the worst. We had it up when we first had goats, and the first major injury we had with them my dad ripped it all out and installed an electric fence. All it took was one zap and they gave it a wide berth.
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Personally I trust barbwire more then electric fence, I trust cows and horses to stay put with a barbwire fence better than electric one. It a regional normal the people who have livestock are mostly ranchers, and it’s a different mentally/way of life. However I do agree barbwire is a whole lot more nasty than electric wire.
Her first incident she went to bluff the fence (a habit) and she didn’t give herself enough time to stop since it was muddy, I didn’t see it but she slipped/skidded for at least 8ft on her side of the fence, busted a 4ft wood fence post off at the base and somehow ended up on the other side of the fence. That was a 4 strand fence, she didn’t get a scratch on her I looked thoroughly. She hasn’t bluffed a fence since, at least not that I’ve seen. The next incident was my fault. We were chasing a runback calf at a full gallop trying to get ahead of it, and I realized we were about to go over a wire gate laying on the ground about 3 seconds before we went over it. She didn’t get tangled or anything when we went over it thank God, and my husband got the gate closed before I got the calf turned back around. I checked her over once I was able too and she didn’t have a scratch, but that one could have been very bad for both of us. So we’ve been lucky since both accidents could have been crippling if not fatal. Which is why I started wondering what a decent emergency fund for a horse would/should look like. -
Ugh yeah wire is the worst. The first young horse I trained was pretty accident prone and managed to get tangled in it twice. The first time she ended up with 13 stitches right over her hock joint and the second time she ripped her heel bulb. She made a full recovery both times and I learned a lot about rehabbing. Electric fences work great for me on my small acreage but it sounds like you live around big ranches. I can't imagine trying to maintain electric fencing on a bigger acreage like that.ID 43830
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The vet school I'm in sees a lot of urgent care and emergency cases, so I've seen a fair number of unexpected vet bills get cashed out at the register. As many have said, an emergency can run you through a good couple thousand quite quickly and easily - but it really varies based on the type of emergency and what kind of care is involved.
Two types of cases seemed to be the most common for emergency presentation: cuts from wire, animal attacks, other horses, etc and colic. $500 (for our area - yours may vary a little in either direction) seemed to be the absolute low end for any emergency case - I can't think of many clients who checked out with a bill below that. $1000 - 2000 seemed an average bill for a in-and-out on the same day emergency that could be reasonably resolved without full anesthesia. Anything requiring more extensive anesthesia (colic surgery, etc) or hospitalization (wound led to a bad infection requiring IV medication, etc) had a minimum of $5000 - $7500 and could go up, appreciably, from there.
In the end, I don't think it's possible to have 'too much' in an emergency fund for horses. I know a lot of our clients approach the question from the perspective of: "how much am I really, truly, willing to spend; what's the limit of a vet bill that I wouldn't be willing to pay" and use that as their goal. -