HGG Community Forums

The Pali definately carries DP and papered B, but I would geld the Dun, as he only papered C, which is probably the same quality as your foundation stud, and if you are looking to improve your lines, you want your colts to be better than their sires.

Is this horse DPDP?

Star Strike, DP only effects red pigment. Silver black like you horse can look similar, but the color is caused by diluting the black pigment rather than darkening the red.

What about this one? Would he be DP or DPDP?
SS Dark Holiday 2g

He is probably heterozygous DP, since his dam is a Chocolate Palomino. I don't know if Yule Log horses carry DP.

Chestnuts are the only red based horses. For a horse to be bay it has to have at least one dominant E gene and one dominant A gene. I have seen bays referred to as black based, other times I've seen them classed as bay based. Any color horse can carry the DP gene, even black ones, but since black horses have no red hair, it doesn't affect their appearance. It does affect bays and buckskins, but it can be harder to identify visually, and there is no special name for bays with DP and Sooty.

Dun is a dilution gene that affects all base colors. Chestnuts with the dun gene are called Red Duns. If they have 3 darkening genes (2 Sooty and 1 or 2 DP or 1 Sooty and 2 DP) they are termed Liver Red Duns. Bay and Dun create Bay Duns. Black with Dun makes Grullos. Dun and Cream can be found on the same horse, so we have Palomino Duns, Buckskin Duns, Cremello Duns, etc. Horses can also carry both Champagne and Dun and are named in accordance--Gold Champagne Dun, Amber Champagne Dun, etc.