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Opinion question about show ponies
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So I've been trying, and occasionally failing, to tighten up my barns the last couple months. The breeding horses are easy to tighten in on since I do bootstrapping, but the show ponies got me stumped. I know some people cull by PT, some people cull by Consistent or Inconsistent. Thing is, I've had low PT Inconsistent horses that do extremely well, as well as high PT Consistent horses that do poorly. So I was wondering if there were other ways to tell if a show horse is doing well without having a degree in math and spreadsheets. I've been trying to base my culls off of points or daily HBs earned by the time they turn ten, but that leaves me with a lot of young ponies that take up room and don't perform well. Thoughts?
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There isn’t really a great way to determine if a horse is going to be a good show horse until it’s leveled off and you can see if it’s at the bottom of the class or lacking points a similar peer has.
I used to cull by opening the search and finding my oldest age bracket sort by total points and look through the bottom 1/3rd or so. If they are still placing well leave them and if they are placing last move them on (sell back to the game, auction, sell etc) I go through each age bracket until I reach 9-10 year olds. The younger ones I check to make sure they’ve leveled off (if not I left them)
Sometimes I cut a few horses. Other times I cut the whole 1/3rd. Doing it as often as I did (usually every month if not every 2 weeks or so) I started to notice that there’d be a noticeable jump in points between the lowest group and the middle so I would look for that jump and cut up to that.
BUT that was a long time ago. Now I just buy another barn lol fill it with show horses and cull (geld and spay only) my breeding stock a bit harderBreeding even generation Grullos with IceThanked by 1magesvalley -
Only when they level off will you know if they are good or not. A horse with low PT or inconsistent may end up at the top of it's class and do really well. Horses with under 9 PT I cull but otherwise I keep most of them. I sometimes cull by points this year if they have levelled off.
If you can't keep them all keep the pretty ones :PBreeding brown/liver/black with white spotting drafts. If you ever fancy straws PM me. PM me if you need help with GE.Thanked by 1magesvalley -
I have actually noticed that horses between 9.9 and 10.6 tend to do better than 11-12 PT and then after 12.6 seem to do well again. But that is not set in stone. Someone did a bit of research at some point.Breeding brown/liver/black with white spotting drafts. If you ever fancy straws PM me. PM me if you need help with GE.
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I keep every foal I breed, either as a breeder or shower.
Twards the end of the month I go through my show horses. I start at the oldest and work my way down to 10 or 11, depending on when they level off. So age 17 I search them by total number of points, and cull the ones that are obviously lower than every one else. Then I sort that age group by points earned this game year, and cull the ones who haven’t earned anything or very little (if they have over 600 total points I usually don’t cull them even if they aren’t earning any more) I go through every age group this way. Then I’ll look at the lowest pointed horse I’m keeping at age 10 and go look at the lowest pointed horse at age 11. The 11yr horse should have more points that the 10yr old horse. If it doesn’t that one gets culled as well (unless they are now earning a lot of points 30+ In the game year) I go up the age range culling the older ones like this. This is why I do most of my culling twards the end of the game year, that way I can see how much they are currently earning in showes. When I give a horse a second chance before culling them I put it in their notes along with what year it is, if they’re still doing badly the next year then they’ll go. Once you’ve done it awhile you get a pretty good feel for how many points a horse should have by a certain age, like for me by age 10 the lowest pointed horses should have at least 260 points. -
I don't usually cull show horses and I keep all my spelded foals. Like others said, there is no way to see if a horse will be good or not until it has leveled off. Currently I have a 1:9 intact/speld ratio.
That said, with the recent updates that allow horses over 10 to be auctioned for their current lifetime payout value, I will occasionally auction older horses if I'm running out of space in my show barns. If that happens, I go through at the middle or end of the month. I use the search parameters Age (over 10) Advanced Sort (Points this month). Then I go all the way to the end of the search and cull everyone who has earned less than 5 points in a month and has less than about 750 points.ID 43830
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First things first - if a horse tests as inconsistent it's culled. This is solely a personal preference, as inconsistent horses can perform as well as their consistent brethren, but I don't like seeing showing scores fluctuate a lot. I can't explain it - it just makes some weird part of my brain unhappy. But at least it's an easy way for me to cut down on the show herd!
Any show pony under 10 PT is culled. Since I've been sort on space the last few months, most horses under 11 PT are also culled. I do keep a few between 10-11 PT if they are particularly pretty, though. They get put up for sale for 3k to see if anyone else wants them. If they don't sell in 3 months, then I just take them off the market and keep them.
Then my show ponies sit until they are 10 years old. Once they hit ten, I start checking to see how they're leveling off. Do they have a decent amount of points for their age? Have they leveled off? Where are they ending up in their classes? If things are looking grim - not many points, leveled off already and showing in the bottom of their classes - they get public auctioned.
I stop checking on horses once they hit 15 or so. At that point the cash-out the public auction gives isn't much of an advantage over just keeping them for a few more months. Also, I'm usually pretty attached to them since they've managed to stick around for so long. ;)
I don't know if this is the best way to do this. My show bonus grows steadily, but slowly. There might be ways to grow it faster, but I kept running out of room!! Things are getting a little better since the over-10-auction-payout change, though. I'm hoping in the future I can keep more horses under the 11 PT mark.
Anyway, hope that helps!Thanked by 1FeldingFields