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Question for everyone who breeds even lines
  • So I have really been utilizing my pastures last couple of breeding season. Separating generations and papers into the different pastures. I also put my foundations in a pasture, one for foundations with red papers and one for yellow. My red foundation pasture has been doing very well...where as my yellow pasture isnt domt any different than when I hand bred them in my barn. My question is how many of you put the yellow foundations in a pasture and how many of you just hand breed and then use the pasture for red foundations and higher lines. I am getting back into cobs and am starting from the ground up, so I could use that pasture for my cobs as I get foals born. Your advice is very welcome
    Breeder of the tallest drafts
  • I have no room for yellows in my pastures usually but this year I have had such a cull that I put some of my Yule Logs in and bred after 20 days- not that many that I can do a proper scientific survey on it (about 25) but I did not notice a difference in their quality. Possibly with the full 28 I might have.
    I have too many yellows to put in again and anyway I like to show them usually and I need some way of not keeping all their offspring! :D
    Breeding brown/liver/black with white spotting drafts. If you ever fancy straws PM me. PM me if you need help with GE.
  • Are you using a C papered stallion in the yellow pasture? Breeding a B stud to yellow mares will decrease your intact rate because of the difference in quality of the parents.

    Personally, I try to breed mostly from B/Red foundations, but that is because I like the boost in quality. The few yellow mares I put in pasture are bred to B studs. I don't mind the increased snip rate because the foals that do make it through testing are higher quality anyways.
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  • I used a C stallion with them this time. I get loads of intacts even with sba. But I do use Bs with them sometimes and that usually bumps the PT up and I get slightly less intacts.
    Breeding brown/liver/black with white spotting drafts. If you ever fancy straws PM me. PM me if you need help with GE.
  • If I am going to GMT a stud I tend to do it on a C stallion as I get more intacts to pass the genes on. Maybe I should rethink that ;)
    Breeding brown/liver/black with white spotting drafts. If you ever fancy straws PM me. PM me if you need help with GE.
  • I have some mares from each generation in pasture and in barns, with really good ones and just plain good ones mixed together. I like doing the manual breedings, and getting more than one foal per season using embryos. I also like the pasture bonus, but then again I like just kicking back and spending some time doing the breedings individually!
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  • I use a 60 acre pasture for my yellow foundations and use 2 C papered studs. I do miss individual breeding...which is why I considered moving some of my foundations back to my barn. How do you guys separate who stays in the pasture and who comes back in? Age maybe?
    Breeder of the tallest drafts
  • I pretty much stick with C/yellow foundations, it’s easier to find the genes I breed in the yellows. So I will have one 30 horse pasture for foundations, then a 30 horse pasture for second gens, and so on. After I’ve gotten enough second gens that I don’t need to focus a pasture on foundations, I bring them in or just use a different foundation stud if the mares fit that line.

    I think I only bring the foundations in if I’m completely out of space, or if I have found other mares that fit better (DP vs just hom sooty, Hom Kit gene vs het kit gene).

    I’ll sometimes go through and move mares who keep throwing inconsistent or snipped foals out, either snipping them for show ponies or just tossing them in auction.
  • I do pretty much what Fallen does -- my foundations go into pasture regardless, until I have enough second gens to bump them out. I do feel like foundations don't need the pasture bonus as much as higher generation mares do.

    I don't have any problems starting with C/Yellow, though for lines where my primary foundation stud is a B, I try to use Red mares. I don't obsess about it too much though. Everything goes through SBA and if they don't pass, well, there's another pretty show horse!

    For some of my older lines, my foundation stallions are about to age out, and I'm not planning on replacing them, so once that stud is done, I'll just move on to gen 2 entirely and remove/snip any remaining foundies for that line.

    I actually prefer pasture breeding to hand breeding, so I will occasionally slip some mares in for short or no bonus pasture breedings, just to get things done. (For me, sorting foals is the fun part.)
  • It costs less to pasture breed and I keep a spare pasture to put barn mares in for the 10 mins or so it takes me to find the right stud for them so I don't have to move my pasture mares around. I can make that quite individual or just do a batch of 30 at a time. It also means I can breed at any time and not worry about my lined mares missing their pasture bonus.
    I agree with Fallen - I am fussy with my genes and find hom sooty and no bay genes much easier to find on my yellow foundations than on red ones.
    Breeding brown/liver/black with white spotting drafts. If you ever fancy straws PM me. PM me if you need help with GE.
  • Ok thanks everyone. I may cull some of my yellow girls and concentrate more on red foundations in my pasture. Mayne just pull older girls (maybe 16 and older) out of the pasture to make room for aging up fillies.
    Breeder of the tallest drafts

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