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In this Discussion
- Ammit January 2019
- BestFriend January 2019
- Dinascar January 2019
- DragonRun January 2019
- hiddenvfarm January 2019
- HTRanch January 2019
- Justa January 2019
- Kanorah January 2019
- levesel2 January 2019
- Maribo January 2019
- SeldomSeen January 2019
- SummertreeFarms January 2019
- TomCat January 2019
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- Wildland Acres January 2019
What's a good way to make my horses more desirable
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I have been whacking my brains to see how I can make my foals more desirable. I am at a loss because even though many people like their lines in house only, one of my goals is to make my foals desired to be wanted. I have been trying to figure that out and not sure how.
So what makes a horse desirable to you all? I love sharing my lines and seeing what others can do with my lines. -
My biggies are:
- Even generations. No ifs or buts.
- High quality all through the lines. All horses put through SBA. All studs at least superior to sire. 2Gs must be Red/Blue or B/A (strongly prefer all Bs to be superior to an expro). 3Gs and 4Gs must be Blue/A or Gold/Star. 5Gs must be Gold/Star.
- Fillies. Its extremely rare that I buy colts from outside stables.
Color is not as important as quality, but must be either DP or At, would prefer them to have satin, KP (must have two KIT genes), GP (prefer no e or a), chin (prefer At based) or mushroom (prefer liver/chocolate based).
Also, if I open a search to horses for sale that someone posted, if I see lots of uneven horses, I simply do not have the time to look through them to see if I can find the even ones. Lots of ponies + limited game time.
I know I have high expectations when buying new stock, but I have alot(!!) of horses from my own lines, and I know the ones I own is up to my standards. Quality always comes first. If horses have not been put through SBA, or colts have not been comparison tested superior, I will not buy.ID 108 -
I love sharing my lines too, but mostly I do that by offering my favorite stallions at stud because I don't have the knack for selling foals either. Really nice foals I don't intend to keep I usually offer to my friends and then post for public sale, but for the most part I just take the loss and auction. I do full testing and then often do comp testing too on colts to determine if I want to keep them or not, but I always need the stalls they're loitering in enough to take the loss just to get them gone. :))~*~ Justa ~*~
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Chronic sufferer of shiny pony syndrome breeding all shades and sizes of Dun. If I can help you with anything, drop me a PM! :)
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I'm a color breeder so lots of color, but not all white horses. A horse that's all white is a turn off for me. I also like when a horse is "dressed up" meaning at least a halter or bridle and a pulled mane or braids and a long straight tail or a short braided tail and a set of shoes with clips. I'm not too picky about even breeding, but it doesnt hurt. Must be papered. I cant live without papering my horses now. Getting a basic upgrade was the best thing ever. I like my horses I bred and horses I but to be *Star/*Gold or *Star/Blue. I check past foals to see the ratio of snipped to intact. If a stud has too many snipped foals, I will not buy him. If it's one of my stallions I bred, then I will because we all need show ponies.
Example of a "Perfectly Groomed" horse to me:
Small Town Fly
She is also even bred in the generations shown. She has white, but not too much. To me she is a perfect example of a "desirable" horse for my breeding farm. I too find myself struggling to get the public to buy and breed to my horses. So to solve the problem of selling and to earn some extra hbs, I just auction my horses and put my studs up for breeding and hope for the best. -
I'm an impulse buyer. Flashy show pony, I'm in, solid colored quality breeder, I'm in. My main line is all over the place and I have offshoots everywhere. I tend to stay away from WB tiny RPs and Drafts are my life right now. I also find it hard to turn down a liver or brown horse.
As far as selling go, all foals I'm not personally keeping go to auction, and I've been known to pick up a foal or too while I'm at it. The thing with selling foals is that there are pages and pages of SBA passed foals in the auction that you can pick up for 2600, why buy any ever?
In my experience it is easier to sell proven mares than anything else. -
I rarely buy outside horses for my even lines beyond foundations, or gen 2 blue mares, or Gen 4 Gold mares. I am very picky with what I keep. I cull aggressively and even though there may be many that pass sba, rarely do I keep more than 5-6 out of a 60 mare pasture intact, and quite often not that many. I rarely sell any horses and just toss my snipped culls in my show barns to make me money. If I do sell a horse that has met my standards, even if it has fancy genes etc., I sell them for create plus testing price now. Show barn overflow are tossed in the auction. I used to try and sell them, but I have had limited success in selling horses.
I will make an exception for my bootstrap herd and buy a high gen, high PT stallion that is sup to sire. I have had a lot of success with some HighFive stallions that I picked up on open sales. DarkStar or Kintara stallions would be good as well, however I have yet to snag one. -
Mostly, I don't try to sell my stock anymore. I keep most of the spayed and gelded foals as show stock except for second generation foals. Enough people have different tastes on here that I am happy just taking the money from the auction instead of babysitting a forum ad. If I get a rank special, I will put them up for sale, but for a pretty low price compared to what others ask because as they are getting more common, their value is dropping (which I think is great!)
If I do try to sell lined stock (usually my ice9 or bootstrap mares) I sell them in chats.
The only kinds of stock I will buy are pointed creates under 3 years of age, exceptional and rank special mares, and bootstrap mares.
Like Justa said, I mostly try to share my stock by putting my studs up for public breeding (I don't advertise, though). I don't get many bites, but that is ok with me. It takes much less time and effort for me to make money by amassing show horses than it does to do so by selling stock.ID 43830
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I think it's hard to please everyone.
Personally if I am on the lookout for mares they must meet my colors (hom sooty, no bay) and for my regular lines I tend to look at the lines getting better each time, even looks nice but personally I am not that bothered, as long as the line gets better. I only buy a stud if he is a foundation (who I may want to GMT) or if he has a gene I want to increase in my herd. Let's face it we all have way too many studs :P
My alternate is always on the lookout for tiny ponies so she buys lots of little blue or gold mares whatever their color or lines (she only bootstraps). She also looks at small star studs (although she has started to GMT her own smaller, as she is having a hard time finding studs as good as the DarkStar one she has).
I always bred horses for myself. If anyone likes my horses I am flattered but I don't breed for anyone but me. You often find what was popular last month soon goes out of vogue and a new thing is everyone's must have!
I find other goals in this game :)Breeding brown/liver/black with white spotting drafts. If you ever fancy straws PM me. PM me if you need help with GE.Thanked by 1TaosRun -
This gives me some ideas.
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Focus on one thing and be the best at that one thing.Need to contact me? Read this first. Only send me a PM for PayPal issues or if I ask you to. Otherwise, make a forum post. You will get a better faster answer by making a post.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
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I like quality, don't care about even much, actually I enjoy the uneven more. Dp, Dun, but really I have been shooting for putting horses on the scoreboards with my uneven horses and now people want those horses and I think it is forgotten that I have low gen even lines. Part of me wants to just drop those, but they still give me the majority of my show ponies. XDAll into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.
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I seldom, if ever, buy a horse if it is up for sale on a forum thread with a 'make an offer' comment. I want to be able to open the horses page, decide if I want it, and buy it right then! If I think the price is too high (or, as has happened upon occasion, too low) I will say something, but for the most part, I think if you want to make it easier for people to buy your horses, put a price on them! It will definitely get them sold to those impluse buyers! *evil grin*
Sorry, this is one of my big pet peeves! -
@ConfluenceFarms Yes! I hate those threads with a long list of horses for sale but you have to go through extra steps. It's especially frustrating when the rest of the thread is filled with replies "not that one". Just put your pretties up so I can buy them, while I still have the money!
I tend to have horses for sale that will sit and I may need to relist from season to season. These are the ones I don't want on the chopping block. Someone will come along to buy them eventually.Thanked by 1SummertreeFarms -
Agree. Put a price tag on ponies you want to sell. Much more effective than 'make an offer' threads. If it's not an auction I want to take it home.
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Putting a price on is easy, unless it’s a fantasy gene. That makes it harder for impulse buyers bc you can’t just have a buy now option on them for the publicWatercolor, Chinchilla, Axiom, Nexus, Wrong Warp, Nacre, Ice 5/8, Satin and PearlThanked by 1SummertreeFarms
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In my opinion, the answer to that question should be: breed what is most desirable to you. You could breed the flashiest, best, greatest horses and you'll find people who will find reasons not to buy them so, in the end, what's most important is that you enjoy producing the horses you are producing.
I like Ammit's suggestion of picking one or two traits you really like and working on getting the best horses you can. No matter what you pick, you're bound to find a subsection of the members who like it and want to also breed for it. If not, you can show how awesome it is and be a trend setter! If you pick one or two traits to focus on and breed for the best quality possible, you're bound to make those horses enticing to the people who like that trait. There are some basic characteristics that seem popular and, if they are ones that appeal to you, you could work them into your breeding: even generations, papers, guaranteed DP, less common and pricier genes like satin, KitM, etc.
I, finally, decided to focus almost exclusively on snowflake (with other genes tossed in here and there) and I'm building my lines to produce high quality, even bred hom snowflakes with as little in breeding as possible (I know many don't care, but this is one of those 'it's what I enjoy and not what others want' things - and, in the end, people who don't care about in breeding won't care and people who do will appreciate it so I get the largest market). -
I try to put prices on mine - trouble is when you have a lot to sell.Breeding brown/liver/black with white spotting drafts. If you ever fancy straws PM me. PM me if you need help with GE.
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levesel2, you can, if you put them up in that color chat room.
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Honestly my biggest thing is being even. I get so irritated because I don't even look at it lined stock anymore for sale because I spend all my time going through pages and finding horses that are uneven. This is just a personal preference of mine. I also I'm a little gun-shy because you can't tell on a horse's page if they've been through strict breeding advice and I require everything good restrict reading advice. I also like people stated above, like them to paper Superior to sire, and I require them to go up in each paper category. Example I like red and b or higher in 2G, blue or a in 3-g and so on and so forth. I absolutely love the homozygous and everything. Homozygous KP homozygous Satin homozygous Nexus homozygous snowflake. A lot of times will call my sock just being hheterozygous just because I need to get down and numbers but if somebody were to have homozygous that fit all my bills I would buy them in a heartbeat and two me money really isn't a big deal. I put on here so that I'm looking for but I don't seem to get much posted for it. I've also got to the point to where with my breeding stock that I'll just snip them because to me I would pay a lot of money for what I'm looking for and nobody wants to pay that when they're trying to buy stock.
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Yes I know, it’s just that makes it harder for the forum buyer who might not be in those chat rooms but just wants prices listed on the horse page...Watercolor, Chinchilla, Axiom, Nexus, Wrong Warp, Nacre, Ice 5/8, Satin and Pearl