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SandycreekFarm · Nov 27, 2018 3:10 PM

You are amazing!! Thank you for keeping the game up to date with science so faithfully!

Bourbon · Nov 27, 2018 3:47 PM

*quietly chucks it on her project stallion*

whoops.

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AHayesHorses · Nov 27, 2018 3:51 PM

i put it on a freaky friday on Haj1 and almost died :x

GMT Freaky Friday 5

Bourbon · Nov 27, 2018 3:52 PM

Ohh, he's gorgeous AHH!

FallenShadows714 · Nov 27, 2018 3:59 PM

So this nd1 won’t change the name of the horse to dun, and I assume won’t allow entry into the dun breeders club? I’m intrigued, it looks pretty cool!

OakBranch · Nov 27, 2018 4:01 PM

Can someone explain what nd1 does? I've noticed most of them have nd2. Thanks :)

FallenShadows714 · Nov 27, 2018 4:05 PM

ND2 is the recessive form of dun now, meaning the horse does not carry any dun need at all. ND1 is a “softer” form of dun, it carries primitive markings and causes a slight dilution as shown by AHayes horse above, but will not change the name of the horse or allow entry into the breeders club (unless that has just not changed yet). The regular D for dun expression means the horse carries the full dun gene and will have the full expression of dilution and markings, and allow entry into the breeders club and a name change to include dun, unless the horse is a grullo.

LairRua · Nov 27, 2018 4:07 PM

I'm in love

RS XP ESH Ceithre :x

LairRua · Nov 27, 2018 4:10 PM

Annnnd had to put it on him too :x I love how subtle it is

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OakBranch · Nov 27, 2018 4:23 PM

Oh, okay thank you for explaining that to me. @fallenshadows714 I really like dun but it does not occur in Thoroughbreds so my lines don't carry it.

KenworthFarms · Nov 27, 2018 4:59 PM

Here's my first 2 gene mods. Love that Freaky Friday!

1WRS B104c u NonDunDrums

1WRS C104c rdN RedDunLess

FallenShadows714 · Nov 27, 2018 5:55 PM

@AHayesHorses If you reroll the FF boy you put it on, does it change the body color? I thought the ND1 didn’t dilute as much as it looks like it did.

AHayesHorses · Nov 27, 2018 6:34 PM

not sure but i really like his color so i'm afraid to try :))

Wildland Acres · Nov 27, 2018 6:47 PM

Oh my goodness, I have been wanting this for so long! What does it look like with regular dun? Ah, And I am just phasing out my foundation stock. If anyone gets an a papered colt from a het parent who does not have it so I can put it on please let me know! (Drooling) haha

FallenShadows714 · Nov 27, 2018 6:50 PM

I’m pretty sure it’s acting similar to the agouti gene now. D (regular dun) is dominant to nd1, nd1 is dominant to nd2. Dun gives the full dilution, markings, name change and breeder club entry. ND1 just gives the markings and some dilution, no name change or breeder club entry.

SandycreekFarm · Nov 27, 2018 7:00 PM

I broke down and spent most of my IVs on GMT tokens to make this colt homozygous nd1 and add Ssty, since his Silver partially masked the shoulder markings. Now I think he's just about perfect.

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Ammit · Nov 27, 2018 7:06 PM

Dun eats the dn1. Remember these genes subtract color, they don't add it.

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KenworthFarms · Nov 27, 2018 7:23 PM

After seeing AHayesHorses' Freaky Friday I added Hom Nd1 to one of mine, plus hom flaxen...wow I love it :O

RS Freaker frm1g

CWScowgirl87 · Nov 28, 2018 11:34 AM

I put it on this guy! I was wanting to put something else on him, not too expensive, but not KP or pearl, so I'm super happy this gene came out. Thanks Ammit!
@MariaChapinsFarm3

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fj1482 · Nov 28, 2018 12:08 PM

Here's my current project. Decided to work on creating a H&J version of Przewalski's Wild Horse.

WO1 2998890 RS

RipshinCreekFarm · Nov 28, 2018 12:32 PM

The sidebar says create, gene mod, and purchase nd1. Does create mean we could randomly get it in a new create?

Ammit · Nov 28, 2018 12:34 PM

Yes you can.

CWScowgirl87 · Nov 28, 2018 1:48 PM

Wow, he is gorgeous @fj1482! Will you be selling straws?

RipshinCreekFarm · Nov 28, 2018 2:02 PM

I changed my hmz dun to hmz nd1, and I love the shading and subtle dilution.

1C2 Cadence KP GMT

If anyone wants a reference, this what he looked like as a dun:

NxtLevelGlen · Nov 28, 2018 2:11 PM

Added het to my Watercolor boy and one of his mares for a little extra fun :)

RS Water U Waiting For

RS XP Count of Four NLG

pfrsue · Nov 28, 2018 2:32 PM

I added it to my Hidden Gates, along with snowflake. I think he turned out nice. :)

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Goobanni · Nov 29, 2018 8:39 AM

Are you selling straws @pfrsue 8->

OndowaStables · Nov 29, 2018 11:26 AM

It is creatable, but appears to be even rarer than DP. Between the 2 servers, I created 571 horses on Tuesday and only got 1 horse with it. In comparison, I got 2 liver chestnuts and a chocolate palomino, which does not count any horses who got DP without it changing their color name. This is my lovely silver bay nd1 mare on HJ1:

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pfrsue · Nov 29, 2018 12:47 PM

@Goobani, yep! I'm sure I will be. :) (Just waiting until the next Roving Gene switch-over to make sure there isn't anything else I want to add.)

Goobanni · Nov 29, 2018 8:24 PM

:D Keep me posted

Waldgraf · Nov 29, 2018 9:28 PM

I resisted ... then I caved (celebratory, almost finished with semester buy). Had two younger snowflake projects I thought I should add this to!

HR1 Alagaesia

FR Brenda
The leopard on the mare hides it, but I can't wait to see it crop up in foals!

PaintsStables · Nov 30, 2018 6:58 AM

Question: If the horse already has 2 copies of nd2, it says I can not edit the gene. Any ideas on how I get around that? I want an nd1 that looks close to the horse in the side bar.

Ammit · Nov 30, 2018 11:38 AM

@PaintsStables sounds like you are trying to edit a lined horse. You can edit on nd1

PaintsStables · Nov 30, 2018 12:08 PM

Thanks Ammit!

Edit: Here is my new nd1 GP, Ssty, At, and Cr stallion.

1PerfGP Rowdy Wrangler BB

1PerFGP Rowdy WranglerBB

FallenShadows714 · Nov 30, 2018 12:59 PM

@PaintsStables Just curious, how did you get two 5% boosts on him? I thought you could only use a max of one

PaintsStables · Nov 30, 2018 3:01 PM

I never notice that, but he does have 2 tattoos for the 5% Boost. I only bought 1- 5% Boost, it must be a glitch. I will put it in the glitch section, and let someone check it out.

I posted in the Bug Section about it.

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