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In this Discussion
- Ammit June 2018
- Cheers May 2018
- ColorGoodStables June 2018
- HTRanch June 2018
- Ragtatter May 2018
- RipshinCreekFarm May 2018
- TrueStat June 2018
- Wolfera June 2018
Bronzing in appaloosas
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I know Ammit has mentioned that Appaloosa bronzing exists in the game. Are the certain factors that enhance it or colors that it shows up on better?ID 43830
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To me, it seems easier to see on buckskins.
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And bay dun (all forms of Agouti dun, I should say). Wild bay dun can almost go purplish sometimes with appy.
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Oh dear, Cheers, looks like I've found another side project for my wild bays. I don't think there is as much variation with any other base color in the game!
So cool how they nearly look red-based.
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Silly question, but what is bronzing?ID: 45055
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Bronzing is a change or shift in the base coat color of appaloosas. I'm not very up to date on current genetics research, but I don't think it's very well understood. A real life example of extreme bronzing would be this mare who tests grullo but is phenotypically a weird shade of chestnut:
http://www.designsporthorse.com/Ava Photos 2008 to 2007.htm
A less extreme real life example would be this mare I used to know. She's got some snowflake and varnish patterning going on, but the bronzing shows especially well on her legs. She's not really black, but also not really brown or liver chestnut. Her hooves are painted black in this pic, but they were an odd shell color.
https://imgur.com/gallery/1MjdPaZID 43830
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The Equine Tapestry blog had a post about it several years ago.
http://equinetapestry.com/2012/03/appaloosa-color-shifting/Thanked by 1Phenergan -
It's pretty well understood. Appaloosa causes an overall reduction in pigment density due to losses in calcium ion channels. Bronzing is nothing more then the dilution of pigment.Need to contact me? Read this first. Only send me a PM for PayPal issues or if I ask you to. Otherwise, make a forum post. You will get a better faster answer by making a post.
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I think so? Her base color is bay dun, and those normally have black manes and tails. Hers are a coppery color.
I did some test bootstrap breeding to make pretty show horses and play with bronzing this year, and I'll try to list them from least to most bronzing:
Nothing much happened on hom sooty classic bay:
Shirk Work
Brown dun with hom sooty turned chocolatey:
The Lightweight
Classic bay buckskin, one sooty:
Diaper Butt
Wild bay buckskin, one sooty:
Kumato
Wild bay buckskin dun with one sooty faded to a red dun color:
Sun Bronze
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It is so cool but I wonder if it is a gene that passes down or if its the bay or dun causing it
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TrueStat, I doubt it is a gene with simple inheritance. My guess is there are genes that are prone to showing it more.
My totally uneducated hypothesis is that the less pigmentation a horse has, the more bronzing that horse has. So more dilution genes (Cr, D, Z, etc) or on black coats, more extreme forms of agouti (like wild bay) would display heavier bronzing.ID 43830
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Well, correction. It would be a gene with simple inheritance since it is caused by Lp, so all Lp horses have the potential to show bronzing. However, I hypothesize that the degree to which it is shown (not whether or not it is present) is affected by pigmentation level.ID 43830
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Bronzing increases with age so you won't see much on foals.
HTR is 100% spot on.Need to contact me? Read this first. Only send me a PM for PayPal issues or if I ask you to. Otherwise, make a forum post. You will get a better faster answer by making a post.
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I've got a lot of bronzed buckskin appaloosas. I didn't even know that it was a thing. I always assumed that my horses looked difference because of the ither color genes they had and not the appaloosa.
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