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Justa · May 21, 2018 3:54 AM

I have a question about the comparison test. I have a colt who tested as good as his sire as a foal, so I kept him because I like his color and markings. I used a GMT on him to take off splash, and then I was trying to verify he got his sire's copy of DP and accidentally wasted a GMT adding it. I thought sooty buckskins only dapple if they do have DP, but evidently I was wrong. lol

Anyway, this is how he turned out:

RR U Gotta Judge 3Gu

I just did the comparison test again because I was curious if taking off splash would possibly upgrade him to STS, but now he's testing worse than his sire. Is that a common change when you GMT a colt's color?

ParadisePark · May 21, 2018 4:00 AM

Gmting a horses color does not affect their breeding ability or paper level.

Are you sure you didn't accidently test another stud? :)

Justa · May 21, 2018 4:07 AM

I'm pretty sure it was this colt I tested. He's the only colt I've kept from his sire, and that's why I kept him instead of one of the others I've gotten from Judge Candy. I've gotten a couple from him that looked good, but they didn't pass BA like this colt did. :)

ParadisePark · May 21, 2018 4:12 AM

Hmm abit weird! :-?

ObsidianKitsune · May 21, 2018 4:18 AM

One thing I like to do is copy and paste the test result of a comp test onto the horse's notes. That way there's always a record kept so that if something like this DID happen I'd know who I tested him to and what the result was. Most likely you tested him against 2 different studs though.

Justa · May 21, 2018 4:22 AM

His brothers had already been snipped by BA so I comparison tested him, then when he tested AGA I risked doing BA. I was trying to test out if his sire was uneven enough that all his foals would be snipped even if they were like this one and came out consistent with a better PT than either parent. That was before I found out PT had nothing to do with breeding quality. lol

ObsidianKitsune · May 21, 2018 4:24 AM

If you have an uneven stud, just breed even papers to get a higher quantity of intact foals.

Justa · May 21, 2018 4:28 AM

@ObsidianKitsune, I've started doing the copy/paste now when I comparison test.

I'll just chalk this guy up to learning! I could swear I tested against his sire the first time too, but if GMTing color genes never lowers quality on a foal then I must have messed it up somehow. If I accidentally tested him against his grandsire, that would explain it. His sire is superior to sire, so the colt could test AGA grandsire and still be worse than his sire.

Justa · May 21, 2018 4:30 AM

I thought I did, @ObsidianKitsune. lol The sire is uneven but tested STS and passed SBA, so I bred to a mare of the same generation as his lower side and matched papers, B to Red.

Bourbon · May 21, 2018 9:27 AM

That's really weird that he tested aga sire and then worse than sire. You can't test against grandsire either unless you own him as well, super strange.

I guess your only choice really is to chalk it as a learning experience. Only other possible thing is a bug in the system but no idea if that an be checked by Ammit plus I haven't really seen any similar bug posted before.

Ammit · May 21, 2018 10:35 AM

He did not test aga and then worse. Sorry it's just not possible. Must be just an accidental mixup.

Justa · May 21, 2018 6:54 PM

See, this is why I asked. I'm glad to know that GMT can't make horses worse because I have several I used them on besides him. lol

I still have no clue how I could have messed it up with this colt, I was sure it was him I tested so carefully, but I must have. Oh well, I can deal with me being an idiot, it's not the first time. :D

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