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RoseMorning · Apr 16, 2018 7:23 AM

This discussion is both for genes that exist or ones you think would be cool genes in the future.

Cool Existing Genes:

Snowflake
Axioms
Nexus
DP
KP
All of the Rainbow Riot genes

Cool Genes (that don't exist in game):

Albinism
Melanism
Peacock Spotting
Chimera
Giraffe Markings
Stripes
Dessert pony (donuts, cotton candy, cupcakes etc.)

If I've messed up, it's because I don't know much about horse genes in real life.

Goliath · Apr 16, 2018 7:37 AM

Chimera isn't a gene or an interaction, it's an animal with two different DNA codes in different parts of their body. You've heard of conjoined twins? Chimera are "blended" twins, to put it very simply.

NorthernStars · Apr 16, 2018 8:04 AM

Horses cannot be albino the closest is either hom cream or an extensive white spot gene.
Brindle can be caused by chimerism.

HTRanch · Apr 16, 2018 8:08 AM

Lacing patterns -basically reverse dapples down the back that look like a giraffe or lace pattern.
Flea-bitten gray - I haven't encountered any of those on HJ2, only the dappled grays. Bloody shoulder markings would be fun as well!
Birdcatcher spots - not linked to a specific gene, but runs in families and causes small white spots on the body.

And Brindle horses in rl are quite interesting. On HJ2, a brindle horse only has one genotype. However, in real life, a brindle coat color can be genetic (linked to hair loss I think) but most often it is twins fused in the womb like Goliath said. This means that the horse actually has two genotypes expressing on the same coat! If you DNA test hairs from different stripes in the coat you will get different genotypes.

ParadisePark · Apr 16, 2018 11:16 AM

Desert Pony =))
It's 4am here and haven't had much sleep lol!

LadyHawk · Apr 16, 2018 12:57 PM

I've had three quarter horses with birdcatcher spots, or rather something like that. My now 21 year old mare, they popped up on her when she was 17. Her daughter has them as well but got em when she was younger, probably 4. My gelding is 10, when I got him at age six he had several random white spots even one small one that extended a white stripe into his mane. They come and go on him. My dad also has one 10 year old mare that looks appy with so many rump spots on one side that I wouldn't believe she's a registered quarter horse if I hadn't known her all her life and saw the year the spots came in. They just get thicker on her every year. My dad bred and raised all of them and they do go back to the same TB bloodlines eventually. I'm not an expert on color genetics or anything like that so I'm just guessing that they're birdcatcher spots cause they kinda fit the description.

Cheers · Apr 16, 2018 2:15 PM

Paint on Zebra Stripes are in the main tack pack. I’m not sure which upgrade unlocks them, but they are one of my favorite tack items.

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Having a similar giraffe and leopard patterns and maybe also black tiger stripes would definitely be high on my list either as a tack pack or a new gene. So much fun!

RoseMorning · Apr 16, 2018 3:35 PM

@Goliath
Yeah, I knew that chimeras were the result of one twin dying and absorbing the other (thus possessing two sets of DNA). I don't know why I wrote chimera (I was distracted while writing the first post. My cat was trying to eat something she wasn't supposed to). I didn't know that chimera caused brindle horses though.

Nice Dessert Pony! @Paradise Park.

DivineDreams · Apr 16, 2018 4:17 PM

I would LOVE the Fleabitten gene! It will bring interest to Grays! So they would need at least one gray gene and one fleabitten gene! The reason I dont breed them is they loose all colour when they age. The cool thing is too is there could be a chance for a "bloody shoulder" when hom! Or it could act like Whitefactor and it builds up through the generations of fleabittens!

ColorGoodStables · Apr 16, 2018 5:13 PM

I think the fleabitten and bloody grey would be so cool!

Also reverse brindle. Im not sure if that true brindle or something else but it's be neat. Its be really cool to update the brindle artwork. Its amazing as it is but some brindle hoses barely have any stripes on them.
The bird catcher spots and lacing would look sweet too.

ParadisePark · Apr 16, 2018 5:32 PM

Something like the 4 elements would be cool!
I'm to obsessed with fantasy genes :))

HTRanch · Apr 16, 2018 5:44 PM

From the 5 minutes of research I just did (thanks, Google!) it seems like flea bites might be a recessive gene not linked to gray? So maybe it would end up working like snf or kp or gp, where a horse can be a carrier, but it only shows if they carry the gray gene. And then bloody shoulder is a somatic mutation where the flea bites are concentrated in a specific part of the coat, so not really inheritable.

jezmynespice1 · Apr 16, 2018 9:14 PM

Omg I so want that flame horse to be a new fantasy gene! That would be so cool! :D :D :D

Bourbon · Apr 17, 2018 8:11 AM

I kind of like rare random markings :)

Bends

Bird Catcher

Lacing

Bloody Shoulder

Chimera

(I know we have twins and brindle, but I like to be spoiled!)

HTRanch · Apr 17, 2018 8:16 AM

@bourbon all of those are gorgeous! The lacing especially!

ParadisePark · Apr 17, 2018 8:16 AM

@bourbon they look Awesome! Loving the bird catcher spots. :)

KaleidoscopeAcre · Apr 17, 2018 8:24 AM

@bourbon I love all of those!

Bourbon · Apr 17, 2018 8:26 AM

Thanks y'all! I'm still holding my fingers for bird catcher one day! It's why I breed for minimal white m, it's sort of similar!

CrewCut · Apr 17, 2018 8:32 AM

Beautiful artwork on those!
Really incredible.

You can get horses like your Chimera example from a somatic mutation too. It's as if the agouti just failed to push all the black out to the points, leaving a dark patch.

ColorGoodStables · Apr 17, 2018 8:35 AM

It's times like these that I really miss my laptop and Photoshop!

Also I think I'd almost sell my soul for that lacing! I think that'd look amazing on my new champagne line.
They all look so good

Bourbon · Apr 17, 2018 8:45 AM

I'll go with somatic mutations too if it means I can have random wth patches!

Trust me @ColorGoodStables, you don't want PS right now! The recent updates has angered the art community since it's in a broken state, ugggh.

I wasn't sure how extensive to draw the lacing but it's so pretty *U*

CrewCut · Apr 17, 2018 8:50 AM

I've never seen lacing that far down onto the torso, but I've only seen a handful of horses with it - your depiction of it is exquisite.

DevilsParadise · Apr 17, 2018 8:52 AM

The elementals would be awesome. :)

RedDeeFarms · Apr 17, 2018 8:58 AM

I could really get behind those birdcatcher spots! love them

Bourbon · Apr 17, 2018 9:02 AM

Yep, it can be a little trickle down the back to pretty much spilling all over the horse!

CrewCut · Apr 17, 2018 9:04 AM

Oh yes! I wasn't suggesting you took it too far down, just in real life I've never seen lacing that extensive. It certainly does happen.

Is that Sable Wing in the second pic? Poor dear got a giraffe neck to match her markings.

JheydaStables · Apr 18, 2018 4:45 PM

Oh I am in love with how the lacing looks! That would certainly be something

RoseMorning · Apr 19, 2018 8:01 AM

I love how the lacing looks! I'd love a horse with that.

jezmynespice1 · Apr 19, 2018 9:40 PM

My th mare has birdcatcher spots on her back, butt and right front leg, they make for really unique markings as that's the only other white she has besides her star, strip and snip on her face

ParadisePark · May 23, 2018 9:03 PM

@colorgoodstables

BestFriend · May 24, 2018 12:44 AM

How are you all doing this?

AshaRainwillow · May 24, 2018 12:46 AM

Love the look of lacing it is stunning.

kintara · May 24, 2018 2:31 AM

They look great Bourbon, nice artwork!

Bourbon · May 24, 2018 7:59 PM

Thank you all :)

@best friend My livelihood is digital art so it just comes naturally I guess? Just painting over the generated horse image in a program called Adobe Photoshop.

Lallyhop · May 24, 2018 8:01 PM

You do a great job making it match the current art style! Ammit oughtta hire you :P

Ammit · May 24, 2018 9:11 PM

You need to be proficient at fractal math and command line image generation to be hired. :P It's a bit more complicated then some quick photoshops. ;)

SummertreeFarms · May 24, 2018 9:39 PM

Fractals are prreeetty. :-B Math is not prreeetty. >:P

OOO! We need a Mandlebrot 'color' @-)

Justa · May 24, 2018 11:21 PM

I would totally be stalking anyone who might sell altered foals if there were Mandelbrot ponies. :D

BestFriend · May 25, 2018 12:14 AM

Mandlebrot? What is that?

Justa · May 25, 2018 12:27 AM

It's a fractal geometry that is based on chaos theory and makes these amazing patterns with the numbers. It's awesome and makes some really beautiful art.

A couple zooms of one of the more intricate ones:

And a few of the basic shapes the sets can make if you zoom way out:

OakBranch · May 25, 2018 4:06 AM

I would love to see Bend Or spots ♥

CrewCut · May 25, 2018 12:21 PM

@Puissance is enchanted with Mandelbrot and has been working for weeks on putting an overlay onto a HaJ horse portrait he saved. He'll be tickled to find other players that love it!

Ammit · May 25, 2018 2:07 PM

Wrong kind of fractal math. You need texture/landscape generation, perlin noise generation etc. While neat Mandelbrot sets and the likes have almost no practical use in image generation.

HunterUnderSaddleGirl · May 25, 2018 3:24 PM

This is a horse I almost bought. Chimera?

I ended up with his half sister though (years later). That’s not the best best picture of him but I’ll look for better.

SummertreeFarms · May 25, 2018 4:24 PM

But, Ammit! They are PRETTY! You should SEE my Pinterest Fractal board! HUNDREDS of them! < So pretty, my precious, precious fractals>

Puissance · May 25, 2018 11:57 PM

Y'all are too technical for me with texture generation and perlin noise. I just think Mandelbrot is fascinating and want to make a picture of a pony covered with it.

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