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Congrats! She is stunning!

You will want to change her "E" to "e". That will make her chestnut instead of black.
Then you will want to add two "sty" (or S+ if you like or can afford it).
That will make her a dark (or sooty) chestnut.
Then, to make her liver you will need to add at least one copy of "DP". Then she will be liver.

GMTs are much cheaper right now due to the Thanksgiving sale Ammit has put on but, yeah, they add up pretty fast.

I absolutely love mushroom and liver, especially black liver.
It won't show on a black horse though, they will need to be bay, brown, or chestnut.

Are there any other base colours mushroom interacts with that doesn’t involve me having to learn DP?

If you are still planning to breed for Liver snowflake my AOLMP is a liver stud that I am willing to sell straws from.


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When I made my snowflake liver mushroom line, I added 2 copies of DP and 1 copy of Sooty+ and 1 copy of sooty. I started with an ALoMP mare base as well.

All my foals from him are guaranteed liver red as long as he is bred to red homozygous sooty mares. I don't try to breed to heterozygous sooty mares unless they are proven homozygous DP carriers (and that takes time and testing that I don't have the patience for haha).

His 2G babies are also all heterozygous for mushroom.

I really hope this isn't too overbearing or long. I just started typing out how I understand DP works and it kinda turned into a saga. I just really love color genetics and hopefully this can help someone!

Liver requires at least 3 darkening genes: sooty, sooty, DP or sooty, DP, DP at the very least. The stud should also be red (ee) or carry red (eE, Ee) You are not guaranteed liver red foals from this combo depending on the mare he is put to and could even end up with black or bay foals because he isn't red based (ee).

This is your boy's genetics as it is now: Ee aa LpLP ECA3P+ ECA3P+ (I just chose the pertinent info for this post's purposes). He can produce red, bay, and black appaloosa foals based on the mare he is bred to but can NOT produce a liver or sooty black/bay foal because he does not carry sooty (nor DP) at all.

If you were to add 2 copies of sooty only, it would look like this: Ee aa StySty LpLp ECA3P+ECA3P+. Depending on the mare he is put to, he can produce reds, blacks, and bay appaloosas with at least one copy of sooty. He COULD produce a liver if put to a liver mare that passes both her sooty AND DP.

If you were to add 2 copies of sooty AND changed his E to e, it would look like this: ee aa StySty LpLp ECA3P+ECA3P+. Same result as above: capable of producing reds, blacks, and bay appaloosas with sooty. POSSIBLE to produce a liver red foal if put to the right mares.

Now let's get a little stricter with our criteria because you really want all red foals. The only mares you are now putting him to are red based (ee) with at least 2 copies of sooty.

With Pay It Forward's genetics "altered" to ee aa StySty LpLp ECA3P+ECA3P+, you would get ALL red foals with 2 copies of sooty. Depending on the mare, you could get DP tossed in which would change the foal to liver red (remember for red to be a liver red we must have 3 darkening genes: sooty, sooty, DP or sooty, DP, DP).

Now if you add 1 copy of DP to Pay it Foward, he then becomes a liver red appaloosa- ee aa StySty DPdp LpLp ECA3P+ECA3P+. He has a 50/50 chance of contributing DP to his foals now. Still using the red mares with 2 copies of sooty, you are guaranteed all red foals with homozygous sooty. Because Pay It Forward has 1 copy of DP, he has a 50/50 chance of passing it to each foal. You will ideally end up with a mixture of liver red foals and red foals (all with appaloosa characteristics). This is luck of the draw. You could have some seasons where only 1 or none of his babies are liver red and some seasons where a significant portion inherit DP from their daddy.

If two copies of DP are added: genetics would look like this ee aa StySty DPDP LpLp ECA3P+ECA3P+. Provided the mares are still red and carry 2 copies of sooty, ALL Pay It Forward's babies will be liver red appaloosas with genetics that look like this: ee a__ StySty DP__ LP__ECA3P+___.

Mushroom does not require DP or sooty to be present- It is a separate gene of its own. It works as a dilution on red pigment so effects would not be seen on a black based horse. It works to lesser extent on bay horses on this game. On red based horses (ee), that's when we see the greatest visual effect with the red getting toned down to a.. sepia(?) color not sure what the color name would translate to in English. Mushroomish color I guess LOL. They need two copies in game for it to show any effect I believe which is the same in real life.

Phew. This was long but I really hope this was helpful and useful! If not, please let me know and I'll gladly shut up :-)

This is my mushroom liver ALoMP boy. I think he represents what you are discussing/asking about and is an good example of how your boy would end up if you add mushroom, at least one copy of DP, and 2 copies of sooty.


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