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- BellaVoce June 2019
- DancingRiverRanch June 2019
- ElementalStables June 2019
- GeneverGinger June 2019
- HTRanch June 2019
- Justa June 2019
- Ren June 2019
- RoseFlute June 2019
Choosing Foals
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How do you guys decide which goals you want to keep as breeders or as showponies? I’d love to hear feedback so I could see what I could change in my program ^-^
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For me, it's different on different lines. Some I'm breeding for color and size like my brown dun appy ponies from my Dutch line. With that line I don't worry too much about PT or papers as long as the fillies pass at least BA (breeding advice, in the control panel tag near the bottom) and colts pass SBA. Once they're tested, I cull that line for height (smaller is better!) and genes I want, then if I have colts that might be better than my current best for that gen, I do comparison testing to sire. "As good as" colts I usually sell unless I haven't yet gotten a superior, then superior ones I compare to my best from that gen and keep the best one.
Fantasy or closed gene lines like my macchiatos, watercolors, ice 13, and nexus I run SBA (strict breeding advice) before I even let myself look at the foals, then spend ten minutes going "Aww man! Another perfect one snipped!" and selling back to game between auctioning off all the plain boring foals who pass and cheering over the occasional intact beauty. My luck with SBA is very predictable most of the time and I'll get several foals snipped with the genes I wanted for every one that passes, even with pasture bonus, so I make a nice profit with the fantasy/closed gene sell back, but mostly I wish I had less profit and more shiny intact foals. Lol~*~ Justa ~*~
Main ID# 44842 Alt ID# 54460
Chronic sufferer of shiny pony syndrome breeding all shades and sizes of Dun. If I can help you with anything, drop me a PM! :)
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Oh yeah, I can't tell you how nice it is to bulk test before looking at anyone so I don't have to be on tenterhooks to see if they pass or not. Now those moments are reserved for shiny colts who I need to compare super high.
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I try to keep strict standards for my foals - I breed around 900 mares each season so I need to cut down on the number of foals I keep.
I breed even generations (with the exception of 2 bootstrap lines) and each generation has standards it has to reach. Colts always have to be superior to sire as well. I also don't keep inconsistent breeders (mainly a way to limit numbers honestly). For show ponies I keep any with 10.5 PT and above (mainly because I just don't have to room to keep all 900 foals each season even as show horses).
Certain lines also have colour or gene restrictions - my DP line has to be chocolate or liver, my special genes have to have the special genes, etc. -
I agree with @RoseFlute -- these days I empty a pasture's foals into my Primary barn and run SBA before I even look at them. Saves me a lot of heartbreak!
After that, as others have said it depends on the line. For my black drafts, they have to be black (obviously - occasional chestnuts slip out sometimes!) and I cull for height, because I'm trying to breed as big as possible. For colts, I find the biggest one that passed SBA and compare him to my existing studs in his generation to decide whether to keep him or not. I try to keep 2 studs per generation, usually of different ages. Mares have to be at least 16hh, or they get the snip.
For my fantasy lines, I cull based on whether they got the genes I wanted or not, and that's about it! Which is why I need a new barn to hold them. :) -
When I first started my standards were quite lax because I didn't have that many mares to breed each season, now however I've gotten a lot more strict but this is my process.
First I open all the foals pictures (because I think that they at least deserve a quick peek and I also breed by phenotype, not just genotype) then I move them all to my barn and Strict Breeding Advice everyone. I run Performance Inspection next and then cull out any snipped horse that are also inconsistent (this is mostly to cut down on how many horses I keep for show ponies but a rare super cool looking foal might be kept anyway :P). At this point, I usually run Genetics testing and Breeding Inspection. If they paper below standard for that generation, automatic snip and/or sent to auction. Then go through and cull out any mares that don't meet genotype and/or phenotype requirements for that line. Stallions must test Superior to Sire first and then usually get compared to the other studs in that generation and/or any half brothers.ID: 40723 -
I bulk-test as well. Everyone gets Performance Testing, Breeding Inspection, and Genetic Testing. If they are bootstrapped, only boys get Breeding Advice (I don't have access to SBA). If they are not bootstrapped, both fillies and colts get BA. I then cull by papers and consistency. These are my requirements for foals to be kept as breeding stock:
Gen 1 (foundation) - B studs, Red mares.
Gen 2 - A studs, Red or Blue mares with consistent PT.
Gen 3 - A studs, Blue mares
Gen 4 - A or *star studs, Blue or *gold mares
Gen 5 - *star studs, Blue or *gold mares
Gen 6 and above - *star studs and *gold mares
After they pass those requirements I go through and select for traits like color, height, bone, etc.
I will be stricter about my PT consistency requirements as I gain more breeders at higher gens. EVERYTHING that is not kept as breeding stock is snipped and sent to the show barn.ID 43830
It's nice to be back! :)
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I have four lines going currently, with a few different goals. For my color herd, I pretty much exclusively look for ones I like, make sure they pass BA, and then speld the rest. Once I hit *star on the colts, I’ll test them against my bootstrap sire to see who to keep.
For my ExceptionallyPerfect herd, I have all ExPerf foundations (red papered, 10.4PT across the board). Second generation fillies have to pass SBA to stay intact, and need to paper Blue, along with a PT of 10+. Second generation colts need to pass SBA, paper A, and have a PT of 10.4 or better.
For my ND1 herd, I require second generation foals to pass SBA, second gen papers at least red. Liver is the same.