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- Ammit May 28
- ArtilleryEquestrian2 May 31
- HighstormFarm May 28
- Seaswell May 28
To Test or Not to Test? Help me Understand
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Hello everyone,
I had a question regarding testing. Lets say I breed a mare that is Red papered to a Star stallion. Then the baby comes out as Blue papered. Should I risk testing it through breeding advice if the foal is better than the mare? I have had some foals pass breeding advice, and others not.
I have also purchased Star papered Stallions that I have accidentally tested and they were gelded. Which they would have been better than the stallions I have either created or bred, since this is a new account.
Please let me know your thoughts. Im thinking that while I grow a quality herd, that I should stop testing the ones that have a high PT and good papers? But I could be completely wrong.....
Thanks! -
Breeding advice tells you if the foal is good for that cross. Nothing more and nothing less. How much you need it depends on your breeding goals.
Breeding an A to a Blue of the same generation? Breeding advice is the first step of finding the better foals.
Breeding a ***Star to a Red to get a gene on a better quality mare? Breeding advice is not as helpful as breeding inspection. You don't need a good foal, you need better papers.
I will suggest mostly using it for the first couple months to get a good feel for what is a good foal. While all testing is recommended, and genetic testing makes the game function, you may find for your play style not everyone needs every test.45120 -
@ArtilleryEquestrian2 When breeding horses of very different quality levels the foal is less likely to pass breeding advice than if you breed horses of similar quality. Breeding Advice will tell you if a foal is a good result for the pair you are crossing. The wider the quality gap the more difficult it can be to get a foal to pass BA.
What you are currently doing, breeding lower quality mares to a higher quality stallion, is called bootstrapping and will get you to cap quality horses faster than breeding similair quality horses together. When boostrapping you want to keep any fillies who are superior to their dams intact and breed back to either their sire or another high quality stallion. Any colts or low quality fillies would be altered and added to your show herd, which are what will earn you the most HBs. -
What Highstorm posted is no longer true and only applies to strict breeding advice. The way breeding advice works was changed some time ago.
Passing breeding advice is a pretty low bar and if a foal can't it means they really would be better replaced with a superior sibling. Ultimately the choice is up to you but I personally think there is never a good reason not to use basic breeding advice. Why keep a bad foal for that cross for breeding when you can just keep a better one?Need to contact me? Read this first. Only send me a PM for PayPal issues or if I ask you to. Otherwise, make a forum post. You will get a better faster answer by making a post.
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she/herThanked by 1kintara -
I can not stress this enough.
Your show stock is your income. It's a good thing lots of foals get fixed. Buy room for them first.45120Thanked by 1Ammit -
Thanks everyone! I will continue to use the basic breeding advice as I have had some foals pass from these high stallion, lower mare outcomes.