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Hello fellow haj enthusiasts!

I’ve decided to start a series of educational posts aimed mostly at newer players. Though older players may learn something too!
I am a player who started only a short time ago, and build up my stables relatively quickly. I asked a lot of questions and figured the system out enough that now I am the proud owner and breeder of many multi award winning horses. Being a new player and not knowing what to ask and where to ask it is hard. I want to see yall succeed too! One of the best things about this game is seeing how others build up their breeding programs and watching new stables come into awards every season. :x I want to share my knowledge with my fellow players, in hopes it can help you out a little.

So without further ado-

PT and Papers: A Short Guide

I see a lot- and I mean a lot of misconception around PT and papers. I see a lot of folks reach for horses that are lower quality to breed because of their PT, or skip over ones with better papers because they assume PT is important.

We are going to throw that right out the window! Toss those ideas right out of your brain.

PT means essentially nothing when it comes to breeding quality. Say it with me: PT means nothing when it comes to breeding quality You will see a lot of posts of people looking for horses over a certain PT level for breeding, and it actually doesn’t impact breeding programs at all- in fact, thinking like this can absolutely hinder your stables! Focusing on your breeding horses’ PT is the wrong thing to do if you want to bring your horses up in quality.

For some examples, I’ll use my own horses:

VGN Nav, the first stallion, is 13.60 PT. The second stallion, VGN Lesbian Avenger, is 15.2 PT.


VGN Nav



VGN Lesbian Avenger

This is a pretty noticeable difference in PT. However, they are both double boosted over the breeding cap, and at the same paper level. As far as breeding goes, these two are both top quality. Nav’s lower PT and Avenger’s higher PT do not matter. When using max ability on their offspring and making them perfectly consistent (when bred to double boosted mares) will always result in breeding cap quality, 15PT foals. Breeding wise, they function the same!

Another example to blow your minds a bit more:

Here are two of my horses that are 5% boosted over the cap. This is also known as single boosted.


VGN Dandelion I


VGN Fire Eater

Fire Eater, at 15 PT, at first glance looks like a better option than Dandelion, who is 10.50 PT. However both of these horses are the same quality and have the potential to produce the same quality foals. Dandelion is a bit of an anomaly because he was a moving sale special, he is a foundation horse hence the 10.50 PT. But he does make for a dramatic example of how PT doesn’t really mean much at all with breeding quality. Both of these horses function the exact same when it comes to breeding.


If PT doesn’t mean anything, then how can you tell what horses to use?

When looking for breeding stock, or choosing horses from your existing stock, comparison testing is indispensable.

If you are working with horses of lower paper levels than **star/**gold, comparison test them against each other to find which are superior in breeding quality, so you can use those to improve your program. You should also test them against their dam or sire. Try to aim for the horses to test superior to the dam/sire. Ones that test as good as their dam/sire can be useful as well. Don't use ones that test worse than their sire/dam if you are focusing on bringing up quality! This will drag your progress down and undo the work you’ve done.

If you are looking at the ones that are **star/**gold, You can then comparison test them against each other to find which has the best breeding quality as well. Another great tool to have is getting a horse that you know for sure is breeding cap quality, then comparison testing your horses to it to find out which are at the breeding cap. Breeding cap horses will test ‘as good as’ the cap horses you bought to test against. In my opinion, owning cap quality horses you can use as a benchmark is essential when developing a breeding program. It takes away the confusion and guesswork, and you’ll know for certain where your horses stand.

Luckily, on Forest, you will find many players who breed top quality horses and are willing to sell or give one to you to use for comparison testing! We have a fantastic community here, and many folks are willing to help out. This makes it less difficult to find out where your breeding program stands and what needs improvement. Haj’s community is fantastic.

I hope this little ramble helped! Happy Hajing, friends.

-VenemousGiant