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- AHayesHorses December 2023
- Ammit December 2023
- CeffylDwr December 2023
- Glengirl December 2023
- GrungeBunny02 March 2024
- Lallyhop December 2023
- MamaMiaStables March 2024
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- silverborn December 2023
- Summervine December 2023
Dark Fox coat colour in-game?
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So my favourite coat colour in the real world is called "dark fox" or Dunkelfuchs in German (its most notably from the Black Forest Horse). Anywho, I'm just wondering if anyone has ever bred anything like this in HaJ? Because I'm thinkin of starting my own breed soon and this might be a significant investment if it turns out well :x
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Genetically, from what I can find online, Dunkelfuchs is a flaxen liver chestnut, which you can breed for in the game. Appearance can vary, but it can produce horses that look like this:
z Days Of Wine And Roses
You could also try adding mushroom to the mix. It will reduce the red tone, but will highlight the mane and tail, like this:
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If you make the liver chestnut a "black liver" shade they will end up even darker than the ones above. Usually that makes a flaxen mane that's more of a cinnamon-red shade than the whitish color of a Black Forest.
Mushroom gene is IRL only in Shetland ponies, but there could be a similar gene in Black Forest horses that causes the high contrast mane and tail color.
Freaky Tuesday
A black liver, max dark genes and almost looks black in color. Note how the mane and tail are more red and less blonde.
AHH 8447140
This one also has all the darkening genes but has mushroom. I'm looking to see if I can find any darker than this. In this horse's case, the sepia toning the mushroom creates helped make it look red again even though it's so dark.
Pangare creates the lighter legs, face, and belly areas. Without that you're more likely to get the uniformly dark color for the body, you'd just miss the lighter leg feathering.
https://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=go&ffilter2=0&1=2&2=1&7=1&8=2&9=2&14=2&16=2&19=2&20=1&54=2&56=0&57=0&58=0&59=0&60=0&61=0&123=2&124=2&137=2&offset=25
This search is for red-based horses, hom for flaxen, hom for DP and sooty or S+, with no pangare. It will show the range of darkest possible flaxen liver chestnut, including with mushroom. -
One more to add: this one is the highest contrast I can find without mushroom. Darkest body plus lightest mane and tail. Wanted to leave as example of the shade variation each horse can have. The dark body and light mane and tail are heritable but the chances of creating a foundation horse capable of getting this dark are pretty random.
SH8962534Thanked by 1Summervine -
ee, Hom DP, Hom Sty or S+, and Het or Hom Flaxen depending how white you want the mane are what you are looking for in game! It is Liver Chestnut.
Mushroom can get you a similar effect too but if you are trying to stick to what is natural in the Black Forest Horse mushroom wouldn't be at play.Dabbler in EVERYTHING. -
@silverborn just fyi, the horses I posted are black livers (ie, hom DP, hom sooty). Getting them visually darker is a matter of rerolling the image seed for 100hbs
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It's not the seed it's the pangare status.Need to contact me? Read this first. Only send me a PM for PayPal issues or if I ask you to. Otherwise, make a forum post. You will get a better faster answer by making a post.
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she/herThanked by 1Summervine -
Ah, I see. That's too bad, would be pretty to have the pangare lightning/reddening in the soft bits while maintaining the dark richness of the black liver in the rest of the coat.
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@ Summervine @Silverborn @CeffylDwr @Ammit
Thank you for the information, i really appreciate it :)
I don't have the license for the Mushroom gene unfortunately (i would definitely use it it if i could) so if i do try to recreate the dark fox to the best of my ability, I'm just gonna have to try and get the mane and tail as light as humanely possible lmaoThanked by 1Summervine -
Thankfully Ammit added mushroom to the GMT lab, so you will be able to get it as soon as you’ve saved enough hbs! :xID 45703 | he/himOpen barn policy - no closed lines! I'm always selling straws and eggs from anything I have that catches your eye, don't hesitate to PM me and ask!Thanked by 1Summervine
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Merry late Christmas ⛄
I sent a little jump start for your IVs. -
@GrungeBunny02 Enjoy your shiny new copy of the mushroom license ;) Sent it on a foundation through Random Acts of GivingBluegrass Server: HayesStable - 221755
Forest Server: AHayesHorses - 4344
Mesa Server: AshBrookeFarm - 92Thanked by 1Summervine -
@GrungeBunny02 I have another present for you in my chat room too! https://hj2.huntandjump.com/buddy_chat.php?chatid=433Bluegrass Server: HayesStable - 221755
Forest Server: AHayesHorses - 4344
Mesa Server: AshBrookeFarm - 92 -
@AHayesHorses
Wait i own a mushroom license now?? Wth how did u do that lmao not that I'm complaining. Thank you so much :xThanked by 1AHayesHorses -
@GrungeBunny02 If a foundation with a license is sent through the gift exchange, the license goes with it :) So I sent you a foundation I had around the barn with a copy of mushroom to get you the license and then place the two gift foundations in my chat room for you to grab :xBluegrass Server: HayesStable - 221755
Forest Server: AHayesHorses - 4344
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@AHayesHorses
That's actually so cool, thank you so much, i really appreciate it and I'll put it to good use :xThanked by 1AHayesHorses -
All the horses on this chat are so beautiful, but unfortunately I can't get gene licenses.
When saving to buy an eletric car, literally every dollar counts. :( -
12013608 EXPRO MMS
This is with gray added to the mix. Perhaps a gray reduction added and you would be able to keep the color longer? (I know it doesn't really work maybe for you, but I thought showing how gray darkens things might help.) -
FREAKY FRIDAY 3548964
I have some straws from this guy if you want some. Silver also helps dilute the mane and tail and sometimes makes the coat darker with those gorgeous dapples.Thanked by 1OldCat -
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@GrungeBunny02 I sent some over from Freaky and 21Freak Street. Let me know if you need more! I have a bunch from 21 Freak Street, but only 8 more from Freaky.
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21 Freak Street
This is 21 Freak Street. I know he has an E and an AA but the second A is easy to breed out by 3rd gen. I will look through my studs and freezer and see if anything else might work for you. Feel free to nose around. -
@MamaMiaStables
He's beautiful, and thank you so much for the straws :x
If Freaky and 21 Freak Street are only two representations of how gorgeous your studs are, you best believe I'm having a look at your other studs :)) -
Okay so I've gone through and I've got a few stallions I'd like straws from :)
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Heavenly Eclipse G6 (5 straws)
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I will get them sent over! And thank you! I love playing with the genes and seeing all the different coat patterns and colors.
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@GrungeBunny02 I will list the first horse for you in my sales chat. I've added you.
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I put the last boy up for you as well in the sales chat. I hope they do well for you!
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@MamaMiaStables i picked them up and thank you so much :)
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@MammaMiaStables I'm going to sneak into your barn while you sleep.... If you have a few empty stalls @GrungeBunny02 did it. =))
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@OldCat @GrubgeBunny02 those two are from my freezers, but I could let you poke around those too if you wanted.
I have the apartment over the barn ready for you, OldCat! :))Thanked by 1OldCat -
@grungebunny02 Be careful cats eat bunnies =))
@MammaMiaStables Didn't you see my pawprints everywhere? I've already been prowling and trying to hunt the pesky bunny. -
@MamaMiaStables
You still have straws from the freak?????
He's my favorite pony ever
If you're willing let me get some straws from both!
@OldCat @GrungeBunny02
I knew I seen some paw prints when I was sneaking though the barn myself :-)) -
@RideOutPro Thank you! I will send some from both!
My barns are a mess right now. Sorry if things are hard to find! Doors are always open, so feel free to ask about straws, eggs, or stock! -
@OldCat i will not lie, a cat is the most graceful and ferocious hunter in the world L-)
And I'd seen some remnants of a prowling feline when I'd come back to scroll through @MamaMiaStables barns. Pretty sure i saw a songbird carcass on top of the rafters...should i be worried :(
@MamaMiaStables I'll have another squizz at your barns soon :) -
Please may I have some Freaky Friday straws?
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@MammaMiaStables Thanks and love the names