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- Drafts26 January 2022
- Hyborian January 2022
- Justa January 2022
- Lallyhop January 2022
- LumosRain January 2022
- Maribo January 2022
- Seaswell January 2022
- silverborn January 2022
- SpryOfJune January 2022
- StormwoodFarm January 2022
- Wildland Acres January 2022
- WolfgangPride January 2022
Update! I got the dog!
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Went yesterday morning and adopted/paid for Rhett, and took him home yesterday (after he was neutered). He seems to be settling in better this morning, so hopefully he continues to do well. :) We also got snow here in North Alabama, so that was fun, too. The backgrounds are the snow we got, and obviously the rest is Rhett! He's around a year old, and is seventy pounds. So far he doesn't seem to mind the other dogs and cats.Love,
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Awww, he's so adorable! :x Congratulations!ID 45703 | he/himOpen barn policy - no closed lines! I'm always selling straws and eggs from anything I have that catches your eye, don't hesitate to PM me and ask!
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@Lallyhop, thanks! He really is quite adorable. To be honest, he seemed much calmer on the car ride home than he does in my house. :))Love,
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Such a handsome chonk! If i could put up with pit type fur i would have several, but unfortunately I'm allergic to that fur type in particular. :-O i have to settle for long-haired low-shed types like borzoi or poodley coats instead. Current dog is a small fluffy mutt and his hairs are long enough not to cause problems.
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Omg I wanna squish his face!
Could you believe they are illegal in Norway? Its absolutely ridicoulus!ID 108 -
SO HAPPY FOR YOU! :D hes so cute. Looks a lot like my pitty mixWolfgang Pride ID 554
Always willing to help. Licensed for everything. Specialize in Liver Chestnuts, Chocolate Palominos, Sabino, Tobiano. But I breed everything except Frame
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Also illegal in the UK how dumbWolfgang Pride ID 554
Always willing to help. Licensed for everything. Specialize in Liver Chestnuts, Chocolate Palominos, Sabino, Tobiano. But I breed everything except Frame
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@silverborn, he really is! Wait... people can be allergic to just shorter dog hair??
@Maribo, I really don't think he'd mind it being squished. Lol.
They're illegal so many places, it's unreal. I understand being worried about the possible aggressiveness, but people act like pits can't be as sweet as golden retrievers, and then like chihuahuas can't be super aggressive buttholes. It's sad.
Wolfgang, thanks. It is dumb that places make them illegal primarily for issues humans caused.Love,
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Yeah, I'm a vet tech and i only react to short type hair (pit/bulldog/rottie). It can be really annoying sometimes!
But i have a coworker who is allergic to cats. So I'm not that bad off :)) -
@silverborn, I have eczema, so I'm kinda allergic to life. =))Love,
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FACTS its not the dog in most cases it's usually the person. I know some cases it is the dogs only because they're truly alphas I had this issue with a rottweiler male way back and he was scary he obeyed cause of training but he was very aggressiveWolfgang Pride ID 554
Always willing to help. Licensed for everything. Specialize in Liver Chestnuts, Chocolate Palominos, Sabino, Tobiano. But I breed everything except Frame
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He's so cute! I've been thinking about you and this adoption the past few days. So glad it worked out! And hello from central AL! We got less snow than you all did, but still a little bit. :)
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Like I know where I am from they outlaw them to make it easier to shut down suspected pit fighting opperations.... If they have the dog they can take it away from them without it being a drawn out thing making the dog have to fight again which they say is worse than just being put down if it comes to that, But surely there aren't underground pit fighting operations everywhere... right?All into high quality black based primitive duns and bootstraps.
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Oh trust me there are that and rooster fighting sometimes even bull fighting and in some rarer cases horses fighting occursWolfgang Pride ID 554
Always willing to help. Licensed for everything. Specialize in Liver Chestnuts, Chocolate Palominos, Sabino, Tobiano. But I breed everything except Frame
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Wolfgang, I admit... while most times it is the people... it seems worse when the dog is naturally aggressive. I had an Australian Shepherd puppy once (less than a year old, but older than 4 months) who was naturally terrified of people and peed every time anyone tried to interact with her, and she'd growl and look downright ugly towards strangers. She never charged at or bit anyone, but she definitely made herself look mean as heck. I can't say if it was just natural aggression, or if she'd been abused as a tiny puppy. She never showed aggression towards me, my grandmother, or our roommate, but most other people - she hated.
@StormwoodFarm, thank you so much! He's currently laid on the [3 cushion] couch with me and my cat. Lemme say... we do not all 3 fit here comfortably. =)) Anything for love. LolLove,
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Rescue dogs are the best! I have one asleep on my lap right now.
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Yea I know what you mean I've also seen dogs like that. Was she around other people often from a puppy? How old was she when you got her?Wolfgang Pride ID 554
Always willing to help. Licensed for everything. Specialize in Liver Chestnuts, Chocolate Palominos, Sabino, Tobiano. But I breed everything except Frame
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@Hyborian, they are! What breed is yours? My new monster was asleep on my midsection this morning and then his 70 pound butt stood on it. I was mentally crying a lil bit.
Wolfgang, I don't know if she was around others. She was around 8 weeks or so when we got her, though originally I found her because we were at a livestock sale and I heard a puppy crying. Looked around and she was in a crate in a truck with the windows cracked. Dude said he wanted $50 for her, and so we took her.Love,
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He could've been the problem tbh little people contact and he sounds kinda shady no offense.Wolfgang Pride ID 554
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@SpryOfJune my mom was allergic to her Doberman but not my Australian Shepherds. It can definitely depend on hair type.I breed for Spotted Drafts that could actually be registered in real life. I like them to be Black, Creamy Black, Gray Black, or Grullo and the horse has to have at least a 2inch square patch of white above the knees/hocks and not on the head. I am hoping to get some really unique color combinations. ID# 50732
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Congrats again on Rhett, Spry! :x
The two most aggressive non-Chihuahua dogs I ever met were both Blue Heelers, aka Australian Cattle Dogs. The dogs weren't bred just to herd sheep and look cute, they were bred to work stock and to protect them. Some Heelers are very much a one person or family dog and anyone else who tries to get near them better be ready to be bitten. Sure, many stock-type dogs are well-socialized and have never met a sheep or cow in person, but the instincts bred into them are still there. A lot of herding and 'working' breeds are like that unless properly socialized as puppies.
As for the whole bully breed thing, I'm very firmly of the opinion no breed is born bad, there are just some who were traumatized by bad owners who should not be allowed to have oxygen, much less a pet. The sad truth is sometimes after all the trauma people put them through it's kinder to a dog to end their fear and pain than it is to try to rehab them, especially if they're older. I've seen what's left of bait dogs and known several dogs seized from fighting rings, and the things they go through are horrible. Dog fighting should have one simple penalty everywhere: life on a short chain with no comforts at all. No plea bargaining, no fines, no buying their way free... Just chain them out in the Texas sun with a muddy bowl and walk away.
Why yes, I do have rather strong opinions on dog fighters. ;;)
My sweet "Am Staff" boy Toby was used as a bait dog as a pup but was very lucky because the fight where he was 'used' was busted up by the police before he died of the wounds. He went to a shelter that stitched him up and got him through the injuries only to see him catch everything under the sun in the shelter because he'd had no shots. He ended up with a rescue where he had to be kept in isolation as he fought off parvo and distemper and then pneumonia, all before he was five months old, which is the most important time to socialize a pup. He was left with some scars and scarred lungs that still give him trouble sometimes, but otherwise you'd never know he had such a rough puppyhood or that he spent three months alone in a small isolation kennel.
Toby has a heart big as all outdoors and is the sweetest dog there is. He has never met anyone he didn't like, greeting everyone he meets with a big smile and a wagging tail.
Toby is why I have a sign on my front door. Well, several actually, but the first one that I put up because of Toby is the most important one. An EMT (one who it's worth noting didn't actually come in and meet my dogs!) said I should warn people there was a "dangerous pit bull" inside so I went hunting an appropriate warning sign for Toby. It's maroon wood with white text and says the usual "beware of" in large letters with "dog" below just as large, but it's the line of small text in between that's the important part. The whole thing reads, "BEWARE OF our intensely friendly, licking and jumping, really excited you're here DOG".
It always makes people laugh until they come in the door and get mobbed by three dogs and realize it's the honest truth, though Toby isn't the one who jumps on people. :))~*~ Justa ~*~
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Chronic sufferer of shiny pony syndrome breeding all shades and sizes of Dun. If I can help you with anything, drop me a PM! :)
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My dog is a hairy ginger terrier, no idea what breeds are involved, lol!
She was left behind by the Gypsies so she would have been socialized wlth people and all sorts of animals.
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@Drafts26, huh. Weird. Lol
@Justa, oh healers can be something fierce. We used to have one, and I know other people who have one/some. They're definitely good at their jobs.
I'm not sure if you meant to mention blue heelers (Aussie Cattle Dog) just because, or if you thought I was talking about a AUS cattle dog. The dog I was referring to was an Aussie (Australian Shepherd; you know, the long haired dogs). Lol. I'm sure you know. I've found Aussies are usually just derpy things that are as goofy as they are smart.
Your Toby boy is beautiful. I'm not sure why, but I expected him to be a tan with black points (like a pug). His ears are cute, though.
I admit, that sign does sound pretty funny. Especially since it seems true.
@Hyborian, gotta love terriers. Lol. What color is she?Love,
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I love your squishy face pup Spry! I had to log in on my phone to see the pictures. My laptop is so stupid. I hope you have lots of happy years together.45120
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@Seaswell, thanks! Lol. I don't even have a computer. Kinda glad, tbh.Love,
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@SpryOfJune I knew what you meant by Aussies, I've had a couple myself. It just made me think about their cousin Heelers and how common it is for them to be snappish. lol I've only known two Aussies who weren't safe around strangers, but it can happen with any breed.
And thanks, Toby is my angel pup. I love him madly! I've seen the tan bully mixes with a darker face they usually got from a Boxer or Mastiff ancestor, but I've never had one. You might have been thinking of my younger brat, Bella, though. She looks a lot like the dog named Bella in that movie "A Dog's Way Home" and has a pretty similar temperament, too. Smart enough to know better, but too hyper and curious to care.
This is my favorite picture of my three mutts together.
The black tricolor Border Collie is Murphy, who's 16 and getting more frail every day it seems like. Toby's the one about to be shoved out of their chair, of course, and Bella is the one staring at the camera hoping I didn't notice she had climbed on top of him and then wormed her way behind to start migrating him towards the floor. :))~*~ Justa ~*~
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@Justa, I figured you did, but I was confused and wanted to be sure. :))
I definitely understand all breeds having the possibility to have some that are aggressive, but I admit... my Aussie was the only one I knew of then that was. Most of the others I knew were either overly friendly, or downright silly. But it's just like chihuahuas... so many people think they "aren't mean" or "can't be mean", but they can be, and some are.
It kills me when people tell strangers about their dog, "Oh, they don't/won't bite!" When in reality, sure, they've never bitten you or anyone else (that you know of), but! That doesn't mean they 100% never will. Someone may give off a bad vibe to the dog, and the dog may react. Or that person might be an annoying little kid who's aggravated the dog enough it's mad.
My mom's chihuahua is terrified of most people, and yet my mom swears to strangers she won't bite them. I tell her all the time, "She hasn't, no. But she's terrified of them so that might be enough to cause her to if they come at her wrong or too fast." Yet she still insists she still won't bite them, even if that's the case.
Toby looks really sweet and caring, as does Murphy. But Murphy also looks a lil tired, but I don't blame him cuz he's 16! I'd be tired at that point, too!
Bella definitely looks like one who'd like, "I know I shouldn't, but watch me still do it!" :))
That's one thing I love about Rhett. He learns very quickly. Last night he tried coming over a barrier I have to keep him out of the kitchen, and I got him off of it and told him, "No! You stay!" (Only once!), went back into the kitchen did what I needed, and came back to him sitting there on the other side patiently waiting for me to come back. We also tried him with a food container that once had macaroni in it, and put it near him and he tried getting it, and we said, "No! Leave it!" about 3 times and he turned around and laid down and never looked again.
That's an adorable photo of your three, though.Love,
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@SpryOfJune I tell people my dogs don't bite all the time, but I tell them, "The dogs don't bite unless you deserve it. You be nice and they'll be fine." lol And as for chihuahuas, I'm of the firm opinion they all will bite if you scare them. Even my mom's little Tiki, who has decided she likes living with my brother now, will snap at people sometimes, and I raised her so I know she was taught better than that. She's just a tiny little dog and when she feels endangered, she snaps at whatever scared her. Lucky for her, it's usually people who deserved it. ;)
Thanks, I love that photo even though I messed up trying to fix Murphy's redeye. And you got my three pretty well. Toby's my angel, Murphy is tired and fed up with all us gorram whippersnappers being on her lawn, especially the brat, Bella. Bella, she's just got the energy to make the Energizer bunny cower and hide, and she has very little self control sometimes so she gets herself in trouble often. We're working on it, and she's doing better, but she still has a ways to go. Maybe next year. :))
Your boy Rhett is going to be a great dog from the look of him and the way he's been acting for you, you'll just need to let him know what you want and I bet he'll do it. It's one of my favorite traits of the bully breed dogs, most of them seem to want nothing more than to make their people happy. My Toby is that way, I can tell him to get out from underfoot and he'll move into my bathroom doorway and sit down there to watch whatever is going on, and if I start towards him he'll walk around to get behind me at the other end of the living room in the kitchen door and sit down there to watch. The only time he gets in my way on purpose is when he's trying to tell me something.
I am constantly asking the girls why they can't just be like Toby and do like they know they are supposed to do. Recently Bella and Murphy have decided the words "get out of the way" are in Swahili or something so of course they don't have to listen. :p Murphy loves to play roadblock and Bella has learned that game far better than I would like. I spend half my time some days saying stuff like, "No, really. 'Let me by' means MOVE, you mutt! Get out of the way. ...No, c'mon, don't just stop six inches further away in front of me. That doesn't help us get anywhere!" lol~*~ Justa ~*~
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@Justa, see that makes much more sense than acting like there's no chance of them biting.
I think the photo looks good, and honestly wouldn't have known anything was "messed up" had you not told me.
They sound like the perfect combination for a household. Lol
He's been wonderful so far. He's actually seeming really smart and catches on to commands really quickly. Telling him no, or something similar, he seems to immediately know what I want and don't. I fussed at him once for trying to get a cat, and he's ignored the cats since. He only wants to sit on the chihuahua, and I'm trying to get him to understand that my lap and the entire chihuahua don't *always* need to be sat on.
Rhett is also bad about being up someone's butt all the time, but he's learning that it's not necessary, and he's beginning to stay on the sofa more when I get up.Love,
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@SpryOfJune Sounds like you two were a great match, for sure! Thank you for adopting him and saving his life, he sounds like a very good pup who deserved a great home like I know he'll have with you.~*~ Justa ~*~
Main ID# 44842 Alt ID# 54460
Chronic sufferer of shiny pony syndrome breeding all shades and sizes of Dun. If I can help you with anything, drop me a PM! :)
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@Justa, he's still doing great. My only complaints so far that are big ones are he's destructive as heck. As long as I'm there, he's not. But he's destroyed the wire kennel with his jaws. I've caught him trying to eat the house siding. And the worst of them all, he wishes (and tries) to kill any male dog around, even if they're trying to be friendly. I'm really unsure what to do about that, but I'm looking into a muzzle for if we go on walks so he can't bite another dog if they come near us. I've seen him reacting to the neighboring males through the chain link fence, and... well... it's definitely not pretty. He seems fine around females, but it's the males. Worries me a lot, honestly.Love,
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@SpryOfJune A lot of dogs who weren't raised with toys seem to chew on random things. Toby was the same way when I first got him, and Bella still likes to shred anything and everything when I'm not home, especially for some reason puppy pads. Something that helped a lot with Toby is buying him the big smoked beef leg bones that are like 16-24 inches long with the joint ends still intact on both ends. Toby loves them and will chew on one for months before he finally loses interest. Bella loves the bones too, but she loves shredding things more. Another good long-lasting (usually) chew to try is a cow hoof, but be aware some pitties will just eat them like candy. My Toby does if I don't make sure I pick out the thickest-walled hooves I can find for him.
As for the kennel, I've never had good luck with the wire ones with any dog. They're great for cats or puppies, but not so great for a big dog that wasn't raised respecting a crate. My mutts have a huge heavy-duty plastic crate with a sturdy wire door, and since there's nothing inside the crate or door for them to grab they can't really tear it up. Bella has tried, I promise, and never even managed to scratch up the plastic. Cheap plastic crates aren't always so sturdy, but the ones that are marked "airplane approved" usually work really well even for escape artists and heavy chewers. I've had the same big "Noz 2 Noz" crate for over twenty years, but the "Retriever" crates at Tractor Supply are very similar except for the door latch. Noz 2 Noz used to make a crate with a top-latching door that some people had trouble with because it will come off the crate with minimal effort from the outside, but I like it because it makes it easier for me to open and close the door without having to reach so far down, and on the inside it's impossible to open. My balance is shot and standing on my head to reach for anything near the floor often ends with me in the floor, so easy open/close from the top of the door is awesome for me. :))
The male dog aggression thing is harder to fix in an adult dog that was just neutered. :-< Right now he still has the testosterone hormones making him feel all big bad alpha male. I would suggest the muzzle for when you take him out of your house/yard, for sure, preferably a wire 'basket' or 'box' muzzle because the soft kind aren't bite-proof, and a spray bottle full of water to correct him with anytime he might be exposed to another male. Then when he gets growly or snarly, firmly tell him no or 'hey!' ;) and spray him right in the face with water to get his attention off the other dog, then call him away. Hopefully he'll get the message and leave the other dog alone, but it'll take some determination and work to get him to understand you don't ever want him acting that way. It can be fixed, I had an aggressive Shepherd the same way that was spayed to try to calm her down and I eventually got through to her, but it took time to work through the hormone changes. It will help a lot that Rhett wants to make you happy and likes you.~*~ Justa ~*~
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@Justa, I actually tried him with one of those big bones. He just sat next to it and got angry at any animal that went near. So I picked it up, since he wasn't eating it. I actually got him some hooves, and he liked them but they last as long as a milkbone it seems. He also doesn't care for milkbones. :))
I never actually thought of plastic crates. I found one crate made like those super sturdy parrot cages that seemed good. The wheels lock. Would you go the plastic or this one?
I was planning on getting a wire basket type muzzle. We took him to a store the other day and he did really well, but was very interested in another dog and seemed "too interested" in my opinion. He was standing firm and nearly pulling, and wasn't breaking concentration, until I pulled the leash a little hard and he turned and followed me. I'm glad the situation wasn't worse, but I'd like security for future situations, in case he's less "calm", or the other dog is more hyper than that one. The dog that day was calm and kept distance, which probably helped in the end. I'm just hoping that what you've suggested does actually help. He will lay nest to Cupcake, and tries to play with the chihuahua, but most of the neighboring dogs are males and he wants to shred them. He can't even be near my mom's 3 legged dog because the 3 legged dog has equal feelings towards Rhett (but no other dog that we know of).Love,
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I'm a big fan of the plastic crates. I've only ever seen one dog shred one from the inside and it wasn't sealed properly. Some of the side clips were missing cause it was used before. I was even able to find one big enough for my husky.45120
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Popping in to say what an absolute cutie pup. And that my parents have staffies. And they DESTROYED plastic crates. They would yank the wire doors in bending the metal. And then chew their way out. To multiple crates. It sucked big time. I think they've given up on crating them and put them outside when they leave. Or something with a doggie door. (Whenever I visit they take the doggie door out since I have a toddler and they have a pool.)
I wish you the best of luck with finding a good kennel.ID 52206
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@SpryOfJune Sorry for the slow reply! My net has been craptastic again.
It depends on the size of that metal crate and how far apart the bars are. If he can get his muzzle into it to grab the bars, he can bend and eventually destroy even that heavy-barred metal crate. Pitties are strong and his jaws can crush/break things you would never believe possible until you saw it. My Toby regularly cracks those big beef leg bones. lol Most plastic crates are smooth on the inside with doors that have small enough heavy wire mesh that they can't grab it, so they work out pretty well with a houdini or destructo dog. If you do decide to go with the metal, I would also make sure there's a nice thick crate pad in there so he's never on that metal floor, it's bad for his feet and can very quickly lead to broken toes.
Whatever crate you get him, though, put the bone in it. He might be too worried another critter will sneak up on him to steal it when he's loose with it. Another thing to try is getting one end of the bone wet with warm water first to make it smell and taste even better when he tries it. I had a Husky/Wolf pup years ago who had horrible separation anxiety and when alone would chew on everything but a dog bone until a vet showed me that trick. After that, I was buying those huge bones a couple times a month and stopped losing clothes, shoes, and furniture. lol
And I agree on the "too interested" diagnosis of how Rhett acted in that store. Hyper focus, staring the other dog down, and leaning into the leash are all aggressive signs, especially if he was holding his tail up and very still or wagging it stiffly. He can be trained not to be that way without using a muzzle, but with him being a rescue and no idea of his past, I would err on the side of caution with the muzzle. Some people don't like to ever start using a muzzle because they think it becomes a crutch, but I would rather use one and know he isn't going to be able to do anything that could get him condemned as an aggressive animal. Different places have different laws on what it takes for that, but many places are especially rough on Pitties just because of their looks.
You might also think about getting him one of those harnesses with the velcro patch areas on it and a couple patches saying "In Training" and maybe one of the "Rescue Dog, Give Me Space" ones. Things like that will make it easier for other people to know not to approach him too close while you're trying to work him through his issues. I would also try carrying treats or even his dog food in your pocket when you take him anywhere, and when he's ignoring another dog and paying attention to you, give him a treat and praise him. If he's anything like my boy Toby, you'll have him watching every move you make in a very short while. Toby will ignore anything for a 'treat' except another treat. :))~*~ Justa ~*~
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Chronic sufferer of shiny pony syndrome breeding all shades and sizes of Dun. If I can help you with anything, drop me a PM! :)
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@Seaswell, wow.
@LumosRain, holy dog! LOL
@Justa, thank you so much! That all makes sense! I'm definitely extra cautious with him in places because I don't know how he'll he and don't want the wrong thing to happen. Especially something that could cause him to be "punished" beyond the words "bad dog". I'm pretty sure I've found the plastic crate I want. It seems really good, and actually is made of that material those rubbermaid cow water troughs are made of. He's learning quickly, really. He's horrible at the command stay, but last night, I said stay, and when I left the room - he was staring at the door with his ear flipped backwards. I came back in the room 5 minutes later to see him in the exact same position, staring at the door, with his ear still flipped. I like how seriously he took me. That being said, he's behaving better than my older dog, who is usually really well behaved.Love,
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