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Ammit November 2021
HTRanch October 2021
Lallyhop November 2021
Nightphoenix October 2021
OndowaStables October 2021
Seaswell October 2021
Whippoorwill October 2021
Wildland Acres October 2021

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Genetic anomaly?

Whippoorwill Oct 29, 2021 3:36 PM

So I was sorting through my keeper studs to take notes on gmt projects and noticed this boy is homozygous for Frame on his second strand. He was a bit of a rarity anyways being a Chimera from two Vault of Stars foundies. I'm guessing since his first strand is heterozygous is the reason he survived. I'll change his inheritance to avoid problems, but thought I'd share him in case someone else had ran across this.

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Wildland Acres Oct 29, 2021 5:07 PM

Oooo, second strand is Homozygous. That is crazy!

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Seaswell Oct 29, 2021 6:43 PM

How fun is that! I love second strand surprises.

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Lallyhop Oct 30, 2021 3:47 AM

Super cool!

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Wildland Acres Oct 30, 2021 9:10 AM

Though the foals still wouldn't be any more lethal than if he passed the heterozygous O on the other strand even if he did breed with the second strand, right? He can only give max of 1 O no matter what and he can do so with either strand. Do I have that right? This is so interesting.

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Wildland Acres Oct 30, 2021 9:12 AM

Does this mean he is a zombie being half lethal horse? That poor one strand of four doing all the work to keep the horse alive despite he genetic breakages in all the rest of the strands! XD

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Whippoorwill Oct 30, 2021 10:14 AM

Yes, you're correct. I failed to mention my intent to remove the single copy of Frame as well :) Love the idea of him being half zombie lol
OndowaStables Oct 30, 2021 3:09 PM

I've got one too! The best in pasture foal from one of my foundation pastures is also a chimera with homozygous frame on his second DNA set:

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Whippoorwill Oct 30, 2021 3:19 PM

It's so cool! I'm loving the novelty :)
Whippoorwill Oct 30, 2021 3:31 PM

Did a search and there's only five second gen chimeras with O/O in the game. You actually have two OndowaStables

https://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=go&jump=0&foundation=0&name_lm=not+like&tattoo=Freaky+Friday&tat_lm=not+like&brindle2=0&46=2&47=1&128=0&129=0
Lallyhop Oct 30, 2021 4:32 PM

Interesting, they're all on second strand! I wonder if second strand denotes only color while first strand controls lethality (and maybe height/weight/etc too?)

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HTRanch Oct 31, 2021 5:44 PM

@looper you could always find out about the height and weight by merging a riding pony and a draft together and seeing what you get!

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Nightphoenix Oct 31, 2021 7:10 PM

The second strand doesn’t like to follow the rules. I have a mare on Bluegrass who is hom W1 on her second strand!
Lallyhop Nov 1, 2021 2:50 AM

@HTRanch Good point! Here he is!

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Out of curiosity, I put a copy of height regulator on the riding pony before merging, and the primary was still unaffected by that, even though that's in the genes itself. I think that's pretty clear, then - appears that second strand is purely color (and inheritance of course), hence why the lethal combos are totally fine on the second strand.

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Ammit Nov 1, 2021 6:00 AM

Yup, the second strand is just the color, not the body.

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