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WelshValley · Jul 6, 2020 3:13 AM

Hi all. I'm trying to build 3 very specific lines on this account but I'm really struggling to find the right horses to start it off.
My first line is my 'Fjord line'
These are cobs with hom dun and no white genes.
I need a starter stallion thats Ee aa DD CrCr
I need mares with hom dun and no white genes

My second line is the 'Black Arab' line
This will be EE aa, no white genes and a white factor of none. Riding horse shape
I need the perfect stallion
I also need a bunch of mares
I was trying to use perfect foundation/exceptional show horses for these

My 3rd line is the 'Spots Cob' line
These are cobs with grey, champagne and appy (still no white genes)
My ideal starter stallion would be GG ChCh LpLp PatnPatn
I'd like to breed to GG ChCh PatnPatn mares

I can afford to do a few tweaks to the stallions, but I'd really like to find mares with the right genes. Please show me what you've got available. I want to keep to yellow/c papered and preferably younger than 15.

So far I have this boy as a maybe for the fjord starter stallion

Fjord Starter

And I have this girl as a maybe spots cob starter stallion

SpotsCobMare6387679

BlueJumpingBean · Jul 6, 2020 5:59 AM

Here are some Black "Arabs" that are for sale
https://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=1&status=sale&ageg=&agel=&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&heightg=&heightl=&heighte=&boneg=&bonel=1.5&bonee=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&f_limit=25&stallion=1&mare=1&bty=1&nbty=1&foundation=1&name=&name_lm=like&color=black&color_lm=like&owner=&owner_lm=like&breeder=&breeder_lm=like&sire=&sire_lm=like&dam=&dam_lm=like&barn=&barn_lm=like&pasture=&past_lm=like&tattoo=&tat_lm=like&tat_and=and&club=&bc_lm=like&bc_and=and&e1=&e2=&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=&c3=&d1=&d3=&d2=&d4=&g1=&g2=&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&mu2=&mu1=&chn2=&chn1=&b2=&b1=&tig1=&tig2=&tig3=&kit1=&kit2=&kit3=&kit4=&kit5=&kit6=&kit10=&kit11=&kit12=&kit7=&kit8=&kit9=&sp1=&sp2=&sp3=&spM=&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=&l2=&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&ice9=&ice10=&ice11=&ice12=&ice13=&ice14=&ice15=&ice16=&nexn=&nexx=&nexr=&nexg=&nexb=&nexw=&rainr=&rainwt=&rainpl=&raint=&rainna=&PhnN=&PhnBts=&PhnGho=&PhnSpi=&PhnSku=&PhnPmk=&PhnAtmn=&PhnLace=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1
Here are some for sale that might work for your Fjord line
https://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=1&status=sale&ageg=&agel=&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&heightg=&heightl=&heighte=&boneg=2.5&bonel=&bonee=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&f_limit=25&stallion=1&mare=1&bty=1&nbty=1&foundation=1&name=&name_lm=like&color=&color_lm=like&owner=&owner_lm=like&breeder=&breeder_lm=like&sire=&sire_lm=like&dam=&dam_lm=like&barn=&barn_lm=like&pasture=&past_lm=like&tattoo=&tat_lm=like&tat_and=and&club=&bc_lm=like&bc_and=and&e1=&e2=1&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=1&c3=&d1=&d3=&d2=1&d4=&g1=&g2=&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&mu2=&mu1=&chn2=&chn1=&b2=&b1=&tig1=&tig2=&tig3=&kit1=&kit2=&kit3=&kit4=&kit5=&kit6=&kit10=&kit11=&kit12=&kit7=&kit8=&kit9=&sp1=&sp2=&sp3=&spM=&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=&l2=&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&ice9=&ice10=&ice11=&ice12=&ice13=&ice14=&ice15=&ice16=&nexn=&nexx=&nexr=&nexg=&nexb=&nexw=&rainr=&rainwt=&rainpl=&raint=&rainna=&PhnN=&PhnBts=&PhnGho=&PhnSpi=&PhnSku=&PhnPmk=&PhnAtmn=&PhnLace=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1
And for the Spots cobs, I would look for Shades of Pale rank specials.

WelshValley · Jul 7, 2020 3:19 AM

@BlueJumpingBean I got some black arabs from the foundation rescue thank you
I need the fjord mares to have hom dun and absolutely no white genes/frame/appy which seems to be really hard to find
SOP doesn't work for my spot cobs line as they cannot have white genes

MamaMiaStables · Jul 7, 2020 4:32 AM

Grey, champagne, and appy isn't a common combination of genes on here unless you are willing to remove some genes or add genes, and unfortunately not many people breed cobs on this server. I will keep an eye out. You're welcome to go through my cobs, but most of mine have white factors. My ID is 33558. I would keep checking the foundation rescue. I get quite a bit of cob stock from there for my dun line. I'll see if I can do a search.

MamaMiaStables · Jul 7, 2020 4:36 AM

FR5671162

This is the only mare I could find for sale. I picked her up for you, if you want her. If not I'll throw her in my pasture.

MamaMiaStables · Jul 7, 2020 4:43 AM

https://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=1&status=any&ageg=&agel=&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&heightg=&heightl=14.2&heighte=&boneg=2.5&bonel=&bonee=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&f_limit=25&mare=1&bty=1&nbty=1&foundation=1&name=&name_lm=like&color=&color_lm=like&owner=39558&owner_lm=like&breeder=&breeder_lm=like&sire=&sire_lm=like&dam=&dam_lm=like&barn=&barn_lm=like&pasture=&past_lm=like&tattoo=&tat_lm=like&tat_and=and&club=&bc_lm=like&bc_and=and&e1=&e2=&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=&c3=&d1=1&d3=2&d2=1&d4=&g1=&g2=&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&mu2=&mu1=&chn2=&chn1=&b2=&b1=&tig1=&tig2=&tig3=&kit1=1&kit2=2&kit3=2&kit4=2&kit5=2&kit6=2&kit10=2&kit11=2&kit12=2&kit7=2&kit8=2&kit9=2&sp1=1&sp2=2&sp3=2&spM=2&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=1&l2=2&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&ice9=&ice10=&ice11=&ice12=&ice13=&ice14=&ice15=&ice16=&nexn=&nexx=&nexr=&nexg=&nexb=&nexw=&rainr=&rainwt=&rainpl=&raint=&rainna=&PhnN=&PhnBts=&PhnGho=&PhnSpi=&PhnSku=&PhnPmk=&PhnAtmn=&PhnLace=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1&wf2=1&wf3=1&wf4=1&wf5=1&wf6=1

These are the girls I have that are the closest to what you want. The sable girl is not available, but I'm not sure if the others would work for you.

Firebrand · Jul 7, 2020 5:31 AM

You are welcome to see if any of these help

Dun mares:
https://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=1&status=any&ageg=&agel=&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&heightg=&heightl=&heighte=&boneg=&bonel=&bonee=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&f_limit=25&mare=1&bty=1&nbty=1&foundation=1&name=&name_lm=like&color=&color_lm=like&owner=45936&owner_lm=like&breeder=&breeder_lm=like&sire=&sire_lm=like&dam=&dam_lm=like&barn=&barn_lm=like&pasture=&past_lm=like&tattoo=&tat_lm=like&tat_and=and&club=&bc_lm=like&bc_and=and&e1=&e2=&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=&c3=&d1=&d3=&d2=1&d4=&g1=&g2=&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&mu2=&mu1=&chn2=&chn1=&b2=&b1=&tig1=&tig2=&tig3=&kit1=&kit2=&kit3=&kit4=&kit5=&kit6=&kit10=&kit11=&kit12=&kit7=&kit8=&kit9=&sp1=&sp2=&sp3=&spM=&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=&l2=&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&ice9=&ice10=&ice11=&ice12=&ice13=&ice14=&ice15=&ice16=&nexn=&nexx=&nexr=&nexg=&nexb=&nexw=&rainr=&rainwt=&rainpl=&raint=&rainna=&PhnN=&PhnBts=&PhnGho=&PhnSpi=&PhnSku=&PhnPmk=&PhnAtmn=&PhnLace=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1&wf2=1&wf3=1&wf4=1&wf5=1&wf6=1

Gray:
https://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=1&status=any&ageg=&agel=&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&heightg=&heightl=&heighte=&boneg=&bonel=&bonee=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&f_limit=25&mare=1&bty=1&nbty=1&foundation=1&name=&name_lm=like&color=&color_lm=like&owner=45936&owner_lm=like&breeder=&breeder_lm=like&sire=&sire_lm=like&dam=&dam_lm=like&barn=&barn_lm=like&pasture=&past_lm=like&tattoo=&tat_lm=like&tat_and=and&club=&bc_lm=like&bc_and=and&e1=&e2=&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=&c3=&d1=&d3=&d2=&d4=&g1=&g2=1&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&mu2=&mu1=&chn2=&chn1=&b2=&b1=&tig1=&tig2=&tig3=&kit1=&kit2=&kit3=&kit4=&kit5=&kit6=&kit10=&kit11=&kit12=&kit7=&kit8=&kit9=&sp1=&sp2=&sp3=&spM=&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=&l2=&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&ice9=&ice10=&ice11=&ice12=&ice13=&ice14=&ice15=&ice16=&nexn=&nexx=&nexr=&nexg=&nexb=&nexw=&rainr=&rainwt=&rainpl=&raint=&rainna=&PhnN=&PhnBts=&PhnGho=&PhnSpi=&PhnSku=&PhnPmk=&PhnAtmn=&PhnLace=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1&wf2=1&wf3=1&wf4=1&wf5=1&wf6=1

MariaChapinFarm3 · Jul 7, 2020 10:31 AM

https://hj2.huntandjump.com/horse.php?horseid=6402146

HTRanch · Jul 7, 2020 10:35 AM

I believe there is a Gray with Champagne herd helper. If you are lucky enough to get one on a Friday you could create during Appy Hour to get the Lp. I will keep my eye out for you.

Have you considered looking for Blackest Night horses for your Black Arab line? There was a creation event for those a month or so ago so there may be a decent amount of those around, if people were willing to sell.

HTRanch · Jul 7, 2020 11:08 AM

I went to check my daily herd helper shares for you and got a Smokey Grullo HH! I created them all and put the ones without white genes up for sale. I hope they help you!

https://hj2.huntandjump.com/adv_search.php?runsearch=1&status=sale&ageg=&agel=&agee=&erag=&eral=&erae=&heightg=&heightl=&heighte=&boneg=&bonel=&bonee=&f_basic=none&f_adv=none&f_limit=25&stallion=1&mare=1&gelding=1&spayedmare=1&bty=1&nbty=1&lined=lined&foundation=1&name=&name_lm=like&color=&color_lm=like&owner=43830&owner_lm=like&breeder=&breeder_lm=like&sire=&sire_lm=like&dam=&dam_lm=like&barn=&barn_lm=like&pasture=&past_lm=like&tattoo=&tat_lm=like&tat_and=and&club=&bc_lm=like&bc_and=and&e1=&e2=&a1=&a4=&a2=&a3=&f1=&f2=&p1=&p2=&s1=&s2=&s3=&c1=&c2=&c3=&d1=&d3=&d2=&d4=&g1=&g2=&ch1=&ch2=&z1=&z2=&sa2=&sa1=&mu2=&mu1=&chn2=&chn1=&b2=&b1=&tig1=&tig2=&tig3=&kit1=&kit2=&kit3=&kit4=&kit5=&kit6=&kit10=&kit11=&kit12=&kit7=&kit8=&kit9=&sp1=&sp2=&sp3=&spM=&pax31=&pax32=&rb1=&rb2=&o1=&o2=&l1=&l2=&ice1=&icei=&ice2=&ice3=&ice4=&ice5=&ice6=&ice7=&ice8=&ice9=&ice10=&ice11=&ice12=&ice13=&ice14=&ice15=&ice16=&nexn=&nexx=&nexr=&nexg=&nexb=&nexw=&rainr=&rainwt=&rainpl=&raint=&rainna=&PhnN=&PhnBts=&PhnGho=&PhnSpi=&PhnSku=&PhnPmk=&PhnAtmn=&PhnLace=&brindle1=1&brindle2=1&wf1=1&wf2=1&wf3=1&wf4=1&wf5=1&wf6=1

Ellesmere022 · Jul 7, 2020 1:42 PM

@HTRanch I grabbed the one that was hom dun thankyou. I am praying for that HH every friday. I hadn't thought about the Blackest Night HH, I'll keep an eye out.
@MariaChapinFarm3 I'm looking for grey, but with champagne too
@Firebrand I need the fjord mares to at the least be hom dun. And I dont want any kit Gene's on my champagne greys