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Light muzzle and flanks but pangare recessive
  • duelinghawksduelinghawks
    I have re-rolled this guy a bunch of times but he still shows up with lighter brown color on the muzzle, flanks, and legs. What am I missing?

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    Rs6288797
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  • SpryOfJuneSpryOfJune
    He is het pangare...

    "Pangare lightens a horses coat, particularly around the flank and muzzle. Two large P's will lighten more than one large P, but how much can be random. Two small p's has no effect"
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  • duelinghawksduelinghawks
    @SpryofJune his genetics show "-p" which should be recessive pangare and have no effect. It is my understanding that het would have to show "- P".

    Furthermore, when I go to his GMT page there are all dashes in the Pangare field, indicating no Pangare. Maybe I need Ammit on this one :-(
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And DP with Sooty Plus in Silver Black, Blue, Sable & Buckskin
    Focusing on the tallest riding horses
  • Xceptional
    You can notice somewhat of the same on this girl. She is het pangare also.

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    Loose Prima Donna 7 SA
    Quality riding horses with DP, Sooty+, Sooty, SB1 and SB2.
    Owner of Ice 1, Phantom Diamond Sparkle, Phantom Lace, Chinchilla, Splash White M, Chocolate, and Onyx.
  • SpryOfJuneSpryOfJune
    The blank by the small p is pangare. If he were actually recessive, it would be pp.
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    Chase ♡
  • SpryOfJuneSpryOfJune
    Pangare shows weird to me with the new genetics thingy.
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    Chase ♡
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  • SpryOfJuneSpryOfJune
    Can you screenshot the GMT page?
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    Chase ♡
  • Xceptional
    So one small p is not het? This has me confused.
    Quality riding horses with DP, Sooty+, Sooty, SB1 and SB2.
    Owner of Ice 1, Phantom Diamond Sparkle, Phantom Lace, Chinchilla, Splash White M, Chocolate, and Onyx.
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  • Haltanny
    -- is homozygous, heavy pangare.
    -p or p- is heterogeneous, light pangare.
    pp is recessive, non-pangare.

    You have to remember pangare is wild type and "-" indicates wild type.
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  • BlackWyldBlackWyld
    I have been trying to figure this out as well.
    ID# 47364

    Breeding for all version of black drafts using chimera foundations.
    Help me build my black brindle army!
    Always looking to buy B/Red foundation brindle drafts in black, blue roan, grullo, classic champagne, etc.

    I can be very scatterbrained and forgetful so if I don't get back to you in a decent amount of time just poke me.
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  • duelinghawksduelinghawks
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And DP with Sooty Plus in Silver Black, Blue, Sable & Buckskin
    Focusing on the tallest riding horses
  • duelinghawksduelinghawks
    ♡ Thanks @Haltanny you were correct. So when I went to his GMT page, it was showing four dashes under Pangare (which @Haltanny pointed out is the wild type...must be something fairly new because before it was only PP, Pp, or pp). When I clicked on two of them, I was given the option of changing "-" to "p" so now he is fixed up the way I want him.
    BREEDING DARKNESS (ok black liver but it sounds cooler)
    And DP with Sooty Plus in Silver Black, Blue, Sable & Buckskin
    Focusing on the tallest riding horses
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