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- Ammit May 2020
- Bandit1119 May 2020
- Deathstar25 May 2020
- FallenShadows714 May 2020
Stud Questions
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Hey guys I have several questions about my boy here
ZVR Themis Ice 13 RWC
Is he even breed or bootstrapped?
What kind of star is he? Low or Medium star?
Also what kind of mares would be best to bred with him?All foals not meeting my standards automatically gelded / spayed, if you see anything you want pm me before I geld/spayed.
Breeding Projects
Bays, Bay Duns, Chestnuts, Double Nexus Rainbow Riot Nacre, Grullo's, Blue Roans, Brown Duns, Red Roans & Dun, Gray Riding Horses and Warmbloods
Officially Owned Genes
Axiom Blue, Axiom Green, Axiom Red, Chinchilla, Mushroom, Onyx Dun, Nacre, Watercolor, Wrong Wrap, Ice 3 6 13 16 -
He is very unevenly bred, safe to call him bootstrap. He’s not a star, he’s A papered, and it’s very hard to tell if he’s a low/medium/high just by looking at him. If I had to guess, I would say a low/medium A, since his sire is B papered and his dam is blue papered. It really depends on what you want from him that determines what mares to breed him to. If you want his genes into your bootstrap line, I would breed him to some gold paper mares, keep a star colt from him and breed his son to his daughters.
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Alrightie thank you so much and I am just wanting to past on his genesAll foals not meeting my standards automatically gelded / spayed, if you see anything you want pm me before I geld/spayed.
Breeding Projects
Bays, Bay Duns, Chestnuts, Double Nexus Rainbow Riot Nacre, Grullo's, Blue Roans, Brown Duns, Red Roans & Dun, Gray Riding Horses and Warmbloods
Officially Owned Genes
Axiom Blue, Axiom Green, Axiom Red, Chinchilla, Mushroom, Onyx Dun, Nacre, Watercolor, Wrong Wrap, Ice 3 6 13 16 -
To tell if a horse is evenly bred look at the pedigree.
For most people evenly bred means generations. On the pedigree each vertical line that has at least 1 horse in it should be completely filled with horses without any place holder “foundation horse” name
Others refer to evenly bred as in matching paper levels breeding C papered studs to Yellow papered mares, B to Red, A to blue, *Star to *Gold.
Bootstrapping is when you take a low papered mare (a like fountain) and cross it to the highest papered stud you can (or the other way around but starting out people find it easier to find higher papered studs than high papered mares that you need a whole lot more of) you don’t run the foals through breeding testing because you will loose them to being snipped but lots will paper them and you breed them back to the sire. Continue until the paper levels increase when you find yourself with too many mares run them through breeding advice and that will narrow them back to the better quality mares.Breeding even generation Grullos with Ice -
As his dam is not a gold I would not call him bootstrapped either.
He is generally rather low-quality breeding but if he makes you happy enjoy him. :) Nothing in the rules says that you can't just breed, however, feels good for you.Need to contact me? Read this first. Only send me a PM for PayPal issues or if I ask you to. Otherwise, make a forum post. You will get a better faster answer by making a post.
I sometimes get busy and miss things. If your private message, question, etc. gets missed please ping me so I can follow up with you. I am also always happy to explain or clarify. (HAJ does not have a customer service email, please send me a forum message! )
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Alrightie thank you both so much this will really help me out alotAll foals not meeting my standards automatically gelded / spayed, if you see anything you want pm me before I geld/spayed.
Breeding Projects
Bays, Bay Duns, Chestnuts, Double Nexus Rainbow Riot Nacre, Grullo's, Blue Roans, Brown Duns, Red Roans & Dun, Gray Riding Horses and Warmbloods
Officially Owned Genes
Axiom Blue, Axiom Green, Axiom Red, Chinchilla, Mushroom, Onyx Dun, Nacre, Watercolor, Wrong Wrap, Ice 3 6 13 16