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TheBlueMoors · Apr 12, 2020 6:10 PM

Can anyone help me figure this out? I have 30 mares in a pasture and they have all been bred yet I can only find 26 foals. The stud had a lot of white factor but nothing I would consider highly lethal and he was put to mares who didn't have as much white factor. I don't think I got any notifications of dead foals (if that is even a thing).

Stud I used-

2G 5653864 CHN SUP

Some samples of mares in the pasture

TheBlueMoors3707103HetSNF

2G 4677168

2G 5214471 CHN chg filly

2G 5214638 CHN

I have not gone through and sorted out whose foals are whose so I don't know yet which mares are missing their foals.

Any ideas? If it is lethal white factor coming into play here, I can replace the stud and consider it a lesson learnt to pay more attention to white factor. It just seemed odd that I would already have issues with white factor so wanted to make sure I am not missing something else.

Thanks a bunch!

TheBlueMoors · Apr 12, 2020 6:13 PM

Just went through some of the mares- this is one mare that is showing as bred but is missing a foal

2G 5214498 CHN SUP

ETA: another mare- this one I didn't realize she had W2 so that's probably why. I just looked up the white factor chart and see that W2 does NOT play well with W3. Stud has W3 so that's probably what happened with that cross- interesting this mare is W2/W3 though.. that was definitely luck of the draw.

2G Callen chn

Found the 3rd mare

change to mare 4005728

and the last mare

2G Catalina chn

I am guessing after reading through the white lethality post and what wolfgang pride posted, the w3/w3 on top of high white factor is what did these 4 babies in.

WolfgangPride · Apr 12, 2020 6:15 PM

Some mares just might not produce a foal as in the baby died I get it sometimes where I have maybe 30 or so mares and only get maybe 25 foals or something. Don't breed frame to frame. Also, some genes are lethal with others. Use this for reference
https://hj2.huntandjump.com/forum/discussion/13757/new-kit-lethality-and-kit-mutation-load-explained#Item_27

WolfgangPride · Apr 12, 2020 6:16 PM

As for her, she has w3 and so does the sire. W3 and W3 is lethal

TheBlueMoors · Apr 12, 2020 6:23 PM

@Wolfgang Pride- interesting! Thanks for the tip= I had read it as moderate risk and have several W3/W3 babies but didn't realize it got more dangerous as white factor went up. Something I will need to keep in mind for that pasture. Luckily I am replacing most of these girls so I'll be able to sort through and get less white factor/spotting genes rotated in there

WolfgangPride · Apr 12, 2020 6:34 PM

Hopefully, that link will be of help to you. I wish you the best in getting great pasture foals :)

WolfgangPride · Apr 12, 2020 6:35 PM

I mean w3 with w3 is moderate but with many mares have it and the only stallion being used having it the risk increases

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