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Best of pasture flunked SBA?
  • I bred my pastures finally and checked email. It stated this guy was the best of all my pastures and yet he flunked SBA? Is that even possible? Last month, my BOP foal was by the same sire out of a mare on the same pasture so I am not sure what’s going on or if I just had really bad luck. The rest of my babies have turned out super nicely and I am pretty happy with the overal crop including some I consider my best of pasture instead of my poor failure haha.
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  • He was the best out of all his siblings, but he was still worse than his sire, who is a star and he is only an A.
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  • That's probably because his dam papered Blue.

    I have (or have had) a pasture with an unevenly bred *Star stallion with a lot of Red and Yellow papered mares, solely for the sake of breeding show horses with better PT scores. Quite often, my best in pasture foals come from this pasture, and they all get gelded or spayed because while they may paper higher than their dam, there is no hope that they will come anywhere close to equaling their sire.
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  • Yep, BoP just means that setting all the foals side by side, the raw breeding ability number is the highest for that foal. It has zero to do with how the foal compares against their parents, which is what breeding advice tests.

    Now, in a situation of bootstrapping where you’ve got a single stallion and all the mares are more or less equal or below that stallion, or two stallions that are super close, the best of pasture measure is a great little bonus to help you determine quality. However, you could easily have a B out of a C/Yellow that would pass SBA, and an A out of a Star/Gold that’s not worth anything but a good show pony, and the A would still be “BoP” compared to the B, even though the B would be your “successful” breeding while the A is not.
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  • I got my BoP out of my gen 2 pasture this month. Made it really easy to decide what to keep from my older generations. Mostly show ponies.
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  • Interesting! Thank you for the extremely helpful insight everyone!

    I guess that means I will need to hold off breeding my 4th generation pasture at the same time as my lower generation pastures so I can get a more accurate picture of the quality of my 2nd and 3rd generation pastures. I think mare lag has something to do with it as well- I generally only keep superior mares but one or 2 have slipped by because I needed the numbers or they had the genetics I wanted but with lower quality. Aside from the 1 BOP mare I got from the 4th generation pasture, all the others have been poor quality even for high blue dams and sires.

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    *The Legacy (bootstraps)



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