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- BlackWyld July 2019
- magesvalley July 2019
- Malaayna2 July 2019
- MariaChapinFarm3 July 2019
- SandycreekFarm July 2019
- Taliesin July 2019
- TheBlueMoors July 2019
Colt inherited genes from sires X chromosome
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So, I added Onyx to the maternal side of my stallion and one of the male foals ended up onyx
Does that mean the dam is xxy?
Heres the stud
JLE Banded Mookaite onx
And heres the foal
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Congrats, he is gorgeous.
Someone will come along to explain it better than I can but, basically, it is a 50/50 chance whether the foal will inherit from the paternal or maternal side of their parents regardless of what sex it turns out to be.ID# 47364
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To be honest I don't think the chromosome matters. Also, the only way that the mare would have it is if you added it yourself :p
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As BlackWyld explained, it is 50/50 which allele the sire passes to his offspring.
The way I look at it is this- your sire “inherited” the onyx gene from his imaginary dam and that is how it is written in the genotype- sire’s contributed allele first and dam’s contributed allele 2nd. With your stud it is notated as nd2/onyx. You can figure out what sire and mare contribute to foal’s overall genotype this way.
Now, for inheritance purposes, it is 50/50 which allele the sire will pass regardless of if it is from his dam or sire. In this case, the stud passed his onyx gene onto the foal which then shows in the foal’s genotype as onyx/nd2 because foal inherited it from his sire.
The foal’s dam only has nd2 so that is all she can contribute- nd2 or nd2. She can not pass on genes she does not have (in this case, onyx) and is a XX mare. Onyx to my knowledge is not a sex linked allele so having the onyx gene on the maternal or paternal side of the genotype will not influence the number of onyx fillies or studs. It is 50/50 every time for onyx to pass and another 50/50 every time if foal is a colt or filly.
I hope that makes sense and was of some help. Please let me know if there is anything I can clarify!
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Oh okay
So in the game chromosomes dont play a part in the heritability of a gene? -
Let's put it like this - our imaginary gene, onyx, isn't sex linked. In fact, none of the genes involved in color in the game are sex linked. Neither are their real life counterparts, as far as I'm aware, for those that aren't fantasy genes. Since the genes are all on the somatic chromosomes, not the sex chromosomes, no, the sex chromosomes don't make any difference in heritability patterns in the game. They wouldn't in real life eitherThanked by 1magesvalley
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As Natalya says, the color genes are not sex linked. Scientifically (which is I assume what the game mirrors, given its realism), when chromosomes are formed from the long strands of DNA during meiosis, the different genes can be mixed up. While the Stallion's X and Y alleles will wind up on different chromosomes, they can be associated with color alleles in different sperm cells. The mixing up of DNA will result in some sperm having X and Onx and some sperm having Y and Onx. This allows for the offspring to have more variability than just always keeping the same alleles together.
You can see this happen in humans, too - a boy and a girl can both inherit their dad's hair color.
I believe the only two genes in horses that are currently proven to be linked are Extension and Kit. The linkage can be broken, but it is uncommon. -
One additional bit of information--Onyx is a Dun mutation (although a fantasy one). Therefore it lies on Chromosome 8. For more information about the real Dun gene, TBX3, you can check out this page in our Genetics guide. http://www.huntandjump.com/geneticsguide/?page_id=59De gustibus non disputandum. "There's no arguing about tastes."
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Ohhh
I always thought they were sex linked
I've only got a fairly basic understanding of genetics unfortunately
Thank you for clearing this up for me :)