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FireFrostFarms · Jun 14, 2019 6:32 PM

I have never offered straws on any of my studs before, however this season I have a fellow that I would like to share as I think he would be desirable to a lot of folks.

Austin is evenly bred, superior to sire, and A papered. He can be traced back to the popular stud Freakish on both sides of his pedigree. He is hom Snowflake, KP, and DP. He is also het for Sabino 1.

FFF WildAustin SNFKP

If some more experienced players could shed some light on how they price their straws, and if it would be even worth while offering straws from Austin, that would be great!

MariaChapinFarm3 · Jun 14, 2019 7:07 PM

as a general rule of thumb i never charge more than 7.5k for a lined horse.

start off with the base cost (pull price) and add on money for fancy genes. (like 500hbs per het, 1k for hom)

het DP- 500hbs
hom dp: 1000hbs
het snf- 500hbs
hom snf- 1000hbs
Even bred-1000hbs

and so forth. it also depends on what sentimental value you have with the particular horse.

id also pay more money for straws from horses that are superior to sire (like 2k) and that passed sba. (1k)

FireFrostFarms · Jun 14, 2019 7:42 PM

Thank you, Maria!

I was going to price his straws at $5k, and by your "formula" that should be more than fair! I am wanting to save up some money for my current (and first big) GMT project and am hoping that a little bit of straw sales might supplement my saving efforts!

Lallyhop · Jun 17, 2019 4:53 AM

That certainly sounds like a fair price! One quick note, by the strictest terms of “even breeding” he’s not actually even bred, though that doesn’t make his genes any less valuable! Just somethig to make sure for the people that are really concerned with having their horses exactly even.

FireFrostFarms · Jun 18, 2019 2:44 AM

Lallyhop, I thought even breeding was C-Yellow, B-Red, A-Blue, Star-Gold? I don’t care about breeding even in my lines usually, so I really don’t know lol!

Justa · Jun 18, 2019 2:54 AM

Some do breed 'even' going by the papers like that, @FireFrostFarms, but others call horses bred by generations even, as in 1g to 1g, 2g to 2g, etc. Then of course there's the folks who think a horse is only 'even bred' if you do both, match up papers and generations. Lol

It can be very confusing, I know. It took me weeks of trying to figure out what was best to finally decide I'd go with even by gens and call anything not even either bootstrapped (BS) or mark it uneven gen, say II for 2g, followed by a u for uneven (IIu).

kintara · Jun 18, 2019 3:23 AM

Evenly bred is by generations, it got confused with the recommendation to breed same papers for better chance of an intact foal. So yes to say a horse is evenly bred, all the foundations need to be at the same level

FireFrostFarms · Jun 18, 2019 11:49 AM

So, as long as the foundies line up, regardless of paper level, I can call a horse evenly bred??

I’ve been playing for well over a year now (two years in December!) and like I said I’ve never been concerned about it, however I don’t want to be labelling horses incorrectly!

GeneverGinger · Jun 18, 2019 8:09 PM

I don't think there's an official "correct" way.

Like Justa said, some people say "even" meaning matched by generation, others mean it by paper, and some say it meaning both. If you want to be very clear, you can specify. For example, I breed even by generation, so if I wanted to avoid confusion I'd say "even by generation". But usually I don't bother. :)

People who are super concerned about even lines usually check the pedigree before they buy to make sure a horse matches their standards. (And if they don't, they should to avoid buyer's remorse!)

kintara · Jun 20, 2019 3:10 AM

Yep, paper level doesn't matter for even gen breeding

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