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- BlueValley June 2019
- FallenShadows714 June 2019
- MariaChapinFarm3 June 2019
- Ren June 2019
- Riata June 2019
Calling All Leopard Snowflake Breeders: Seeking Advice RE Spot Longevity
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I just picked up a gorgeous leopard The Accomplishments of Like-Minded People. I think he would look fantastic with Watercolor and Nacre. However, my ECA3P+ snowflakes usually completely varnish out way too early for my taste. Generally, by age ten, they are completely “naked.” I want to make sure he is unlikely to follow suit before I decorate him with closed genes.
I do not own many leopards in my snowflake herd. Searching for older leopard snowflakes in the game (and opening their pages to see an updated image), it seems to be random whether they keep their spots or wash out entirely.
What has your experience been with your snowflake leopards? Do they break your heart by their early teens, or hang on to their dots? Is there a way to predict who varnishes completely out and who retains some pizzazz?
If he is going to lose his spots, and thus all the fun visible color from these closed genes, I will save my money.
Thanks in advance for your advice!
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Its been a small side project of mine to breed a non-varnishing line of appys, but I have not got very far yet. When I've finished my practicum I may expand this project because I want to see what I can accomplish with it!ID# 25784Thanked by 1Riata
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i dont usually use full on leopard apps (even though they are stunning!) for projects. i usually take one copy of patn1 away, so you can actually see the colors and whatnot. i dont know much about varnish though, surprise surprise.. (even though i literally breed appaloosas 8-| lol.)
also plaid looks amaaazing with appys. just for a future reference ;) *will post a link*
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I have an extreme love/hate relationship with snowflake. I don’t breed leopards, but I’ve found most of my snowflakes tend to be white by age 10-12. I would say it might be better to put your colorful genes, like plaid or watercolor, on someone that doesn’t have snowflake just on the off chance they do white out early. My Hidden Gates snowflake boy was completely white by 8 and I was devastated.Thanked by 1Riata
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I don't like leopard (hom PATN1) in my snowflake herd because you don't see the snowflake much at all. Instead, I find that if you have Lp (het or hom) and either no or one PATN1 gene you have a better chance of seeing those gorgeous snowflakes for a longer period of time. If you are asking if he will lose his spots (as in the dark appy spots) I'm inclined to say no. I find that those spots that are on the white blanket usually stay and those snowflakes that really 'white out' are the ones that were fewspot/no spots to start with.
16 year old boy
Priceless Snowfall SNF
11 year old
g2 SNF Midnight Snowfall
9 year old - This girl will probably be almost white soon enough with just those tiny black spots on her butt remaining. Or so I guess.
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Thank you, everyone, for your great advice!
@BlueValley, that project sounds fantastic! Please let me know if you ever have extra stallions for sale. I understand heavy varnish is an aspect of snowflake, but for my non-snows, I prefer as little varnish as possible. I really do not like when they lose all their appy color in their teens.
Maria, those foals are adorable! I could not decide who to put Plaid on, so I did not pick it up yesterday. I hope it comes back around again this month.
Fallen, that is my worry. I don’t want to be in love with this gorgeous horse, and only get to visually admire him for a few months. I also don’t want all his colorful foals to have a boring-looking sire in their pedigree!
Ren, you got it exactly! I am asking about his tiny spots, not the snowflake. I have unwillingly accepted that his snowflake varnish will “melt off,” I just want to make sure it doesn’t take the leopard dots along with it. For the same reasons as you stated, that is why I keep most of my snowflake herd ECA3P+. In fact, while I believe him when his RS says he has snowflake, if I was just shown a picture of this horse, I would not assume he had snowflake. I can’t really see it unless I look very carefully at his fuzzy little head.
Y’all have been very helpful. Thanks again!