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I agree with fallen :) they are both Het DP. If they were homozygous, they would almost be black.

In the FAQ there's a "DP ninja chart(For chestnuts)". That chart explains that a chestnut has to have 3 or more darkening genes to become a liver. These darkening genes are either sooty, sooty +, or dp. Because sooty and sooty+ are on the same location and you can only have two, we know that every single liver has at least one dp. If it's a light liver like these two, and they only have one copy of sooty, then you know that they have 2 copies of dp. If it's a liver that is almost black, then you know that the horse has 2 sooty and 2 dp.

Freaky Fridays are always homo DP. There is a bit of a range from very dark but obvious liver like your mare, to so dark they actually look black like the one i linked below.


1C Cry FF HowManyDays Olw

And an actual black, for comparison:


1C Ltd FF SetYouFree Olw

I have a Cherry Drop Stallion foal. He has no Sooty so the only darkening genes he has then is the DP?

Played with squares for breeing him with That Freaky Friend and the sequence goes something like this:

Ee Aa/Aa+ SSty FF/Ff/ff Pp CC nd2 gg KitW20/Kit20Hm/No Kit DpDp poss Het frame

So the foals would probably still be a Spotted Liver like the dame as a black-based bay/wild bay with light pangere, no lightening from cream, no gray, 25% chance flaxen, the nd2 could make them lean either way for bay or liver, they'll probably have a blaze and white socks from W20, and they'll be pretty dark because they'll have 3 darkening genes (1 Ssty and 2 DPs) but not near black.

Aside from seeing what that would look like, they'll be fun to experiment with and see what happens with the other colors. :)

Thank you all! :D

A horse can only be a liver if it's base is chestnut. This means ee, no champagne, and no grey. So the only livers you see are a combiantion of ee (must have) stysty dpdp (at least 3 of these, if not all four). If the foal gets a copy of cream, it becomes a chocolate palomino.

DP, while it does effect bays/browns, it does not give them a special name. For example if you look at your original girl's dams, they most likely carry the dp but they do not have anything special in their name. Same for the Cherry drop, it is just "Bay". What the dp makes the coat looks like depends on the bay.

Dapples in a horse tend to be due to what genetics it has. If a horse has silver, sooty, S+, or champagne, they can be rolled to have dapples in their photo. Champagne dapples can look very extreme, and S+ "dapples" is more like a mottled appearance.

But yes, this game is great fun to see what colours you can get! Wild bay (A+) is always interesting, because it can react in weird ways, like how it's a chocolately colour when hom sooty, but add in dp and it looks more like ketchup!