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Regular grullo


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Regular Grullo can sometimes show other primitive markings besides the dorsal stripe, but they don't necessarily have them. The one you posted as an example is one with only the dorsal stripe.

Here's one that has a cross bar on the withers, although it's not as prominent as the broad one that nd1 usually gives.

JLd SS Chronic

This one shows the zebra stripes on the legs and a dorsal stripe. I can't tell if there is a cross bar on the withers, because of the mane.

SESUnit

Here's a smokey grullo with a slightly broader shoulder cross bar and zebra stripes.

A Kings Champion

It's a little hard to tell, because of the roan, but I think this horse has a shoulder bar somewhere between the one you're questioning and the one just above here.

B 1533618

I'd say that the primitive markings are variable in intensity, and the nd1D mare you're questioning just got a very emphasized shoulder bar and dorsal stripe.

Ammit may come along and clarify this issue for us, though.

I also found this. I think D is dominant but Nd1 enhances it

I looked up all the horses that are D and Nd1 and it looks like it’s a toss up on whether they have the Nd1 look. So is it just something the re-roll can change? Or something else?

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I used to have a pet theory that sooty increases the prominence of primitive markings but they aren't always correlated, so had to discard that idea. Both these horse are hom sty and DD, but have different presentations of primitive markings.


AdL The Truth of Kuast


Crikey

My one D and nd1 horse also had large shoulder bars. Her mane and tail are also on the lighter side, but I think that's a result of her LP.


AdL Stella nd1

So I think you’re saying how Dun looks can be altered by Reroll.

Is Nd1 the same as Dun?

I look forward to whatever changes you make. Dun is a favorite of mine, which is why I’m so curious on how it works.

Ammit, it's probably a long shot, but if you are rebuilding dun... can we have bider markings?

https://www.google.com/search?q=bider+markings&safe=strict&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjKiY25p8jgAhVL7IMKHfVuCOsQ_AUoAXoECA0QAQ&biw=360&bih=560